Unaccredited List on Amazon

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  1. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    For those of you familiar with Amazon.Com, you can create recommended reading lists (called Listmania!) by subject as you see fit:

    Ran across this one today:

    "Books by People with Unaccredited PhDs and Other Hucksters"
    A Listmania! list by Steven M. Gorelick (Westfield, NJ United States)


    http://www.amazon.com/Books-People-Unaccredited-Other-Hucksters/lm/14MVCQRU8TRS7/ref=cm_lmt_srch_f_1_rscscs0/104-6924258-8983144

    I don't know much about the authors listed, but I am sure it is an incomplete list.

    Barbara De Angelis & John Gray?
     
  2. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    One of the books listed is Are You the One for Me?: Knowing Who's Right and Avoiding Who's Wrong by Barbara De Angelis. Since Dr. D (PhD from Columbia Pacific, just like her then-husband John Gray) is currently on husband #5, she clearly has a lot of experience in this matter.
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member


    Yes, but some positive experience would probably be nice for that type of thing. :)
     
  4. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I see that the book about 5c1ent0l0gy is on the list. Be careful. Folks who have openly criticized that group in the past have been harrassed and/or sued.

    Dave
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Hubbard clearly had mixed feelings about his doctorates. First he proudly used his doctorate from the unaccredited Sequoia University (later closed by the state), and arranged for other Scientologists and Dianeticists to get the same degree, as well as a Doctor of Scientology. But then, after he was roundly criticized, he didn't renounce the degree, but he said he didn't want to be called 'Doctor' any more. Specifically, he ran an advertisement in the Times of London, in which he said that the title "Doctor" was ruined by the fact that all those terrible psychiatrists were using it, and he didn't want to be a part of that usage. He wrote:

    "I, L. Ron Hubbard of Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, having reviewed the damage being done in our society with nuclear physics and psychiatry by persons calling themselves 'Doctor', do hereby resign in protest my university degree as a doctor of philosophy (Ph.D.), anticipating an early public outcry against anyone called 'Doctor'; and although not in any way connected with bombs or 'psychiatric treatment' or treatment of the sick, and interested only and always in philosophy and the total freedom of the human spirit, I wish no association of any kind with these persons and do so publicly declare, and request my friends and the public not to refer to me in any way with this title."

    But in his later years, he was often referred to as "Doctor" by himself and others.
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    L. Ron Hubbard expressed some disenchantment with the plain old Ph.D. title. I wonder if he would have been able to contain his excitment after hearing about the Grand Ph.D. title? not to mention being able to wear curtains and wielding curtain rods! :p
     
  7. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    It is interesting to hear that he succumbed to peer pressure from "non-believers"; that book seems to be saying that nothing should stress you or that there is nothing to react to.

    Dave
     
  8. geoffs

    geoffs Member

    Ron Popeil is not a fake!

    He's no huckster either, sure some of its crap but he invented the pocket fishermen and told us to "set it and forget it!"

    I know many fire marshals that fear that last line!
     

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