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    Originally posted by DesElms
    [*]Did anyone notice, on the St. Elias Seminary web site, the heavy reliance on Hoyerspeak to defend its accreditation (or lack thereof) status? Click here to see it.
    The following excerpt is from the above listed site:

    ABOUT THE AUTHOR
    Richard J. Hoyer, Ph.D., M.D., Ed.D., has a B.S. (in Applied Psychology); a B.A. (Criminal Justice Administration); Master of Public Administration; M.S. (Environmental Safety and Health); Ph.D. (Public Safety Education); a Doctor of Education (Education Administration and Psychology); Doctor of Medicine in Psychiatry and Immunology. (Russian, not licensed to practice medicine in the USA).


    Ummmm, so Dr. Hoyer is licensed to practice psychiatric medicine in Russia?

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    Same

    Gregg,
    Are any of Hoyer's degrees accredited by bona fide accreditors? I thought Dr. Bear was on his trail and had disposed of him? Also, are any of the schools mentioned real? I'll admit I'm more naive than I thought. And that is more than I wanted to admit.

    Dr. Bear and colleagues, along with Gregg, deserve Consumer Safety Awards (I'm sure they have numerous) to stack with their tenacity certificates. Mills and shills skedaddle while you have a chance. These gentlemen make sport of fools. And they are masters at their craft.

    I'd rather wrestle with a grizzly, than confront them with their stacks of facts. I hope Gregg has a great day! Seems as though the crooks are androgynous, with an ultra-mini-gestation period.

    Sick 'em,
    Clay

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    Julian Youth Academy ACI

    My parents sent me to Julian Youth Academy in California.

    I am now being denied my College applications becasue they do not recognize their accredidation. Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated!!!!

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by KendraQuick View Post
    My parents sent me to Julian Youth Academy in California.

    I am now being denied my College applications becasue they do not recognize their accredidation. Any information on this topic would be greatly appreciated!!!!

    Thank you
    ACI is not recognized by either CHEA or USDE as a legitimate accrediting agency.
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    Oh, what a shame, Kendra. Diplomas from ACI-accredited schools are accepted by other ACI-accredited schools, but very rarely by the rest of the academic world. But there is hope.

    Thing one: a great many schools, mostly community or junior colleges, do not require a high school diploma for admission, if you are 18 years old, sometimes even under 18 is OK.

    Thing two: even if you are not 18 or older, there are many schools that will consider people who have passed the GED (General Education Development) exam. My twin daughters never went to high school. They took and passed the GED exam when they were 15 1/2. One went right on to a community college; the other worked for a while, then was admitted to Golden Gate University. The GED is given at a great many locations, and also, I think, on line.

    Thing three: There are quite a few properly-accredited high schools that can be done entirely on line. The real expert in this field is Tom Nixon (who posts on this forum occasionally), who can be found at tomnixon.com. You may well find one that will accept some of the work you did at Julian, and then, after doing more work, get their properly-accredited diploma.

    Best wishes in your quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guest - 220855 Nov. 24, 2005
    Some time back I seem to remember a partial list of schools accredited by ACI being posted, but for some reason am unable to find the post in the archives. Can someone help locate this thread/post?
    I know it's been seven years, Ted! "Holy Necromancy" and all that!

    That list is here: Accrediting Commission International - The list and there is a link to yet another DI thread re: ACI list in it. None are complete, obviously, as ACI has continued to "accredit" more -- uh, schools.

    Cutest name for an ACI-"accredited" school? Hands down, a recent addition - a primary school in Dominica called "Look at Me School." Regardless of ACI, with a name like that, I wish the school all the luck in the world!

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    Last edited by Johann; 09-26-2012 at 11:22 AM.

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    Hold it a minute -- I erred. Look at Me School --"accredited" by ACI is in the Dominican Republic - not Dominica. Sorry!

    Johann

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    LOL @ "Look at me School".

    Why didn't they call it "Take a look at me now School"? They could've hired Phil Collins as the spokesman... smh, missed opportunity.

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    This is a school for young kids - they probably wouldn't get the reference, though their parents might...

    I doubt Mr. Collins would take a gig, shilling for an outfit like ACI. If any founders want to establish schools named after his songs, here are some possibilities:

    "Against All Odds" College
    "No Way Out" University
    "I Missed Again" Exam Centre
    "Hang In Long Enough" Career College
    "Like China" School of Asian Cuisine
    "You Ought to Know" Teachers ' College
    "Behind the Lines" Military Academy

    That should do, for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bear View Post
    Oh, what a shame, Kendra. Diplomas from ACI-accredited schools are accepted by other ACI-accredited schools, but very rarely by the rest of the academic world. But there is hope.

    Thing one: a great many schools, mostly community or junior colleges, do not require a high school diploma for admission, if you are 18 years old, sometimes even under 18 is OK.

    Thing two: even if you are not 18 or older, there are many schools that will consider people who have passed the GED (General Education Development) exam. My twin daughters never went to high school. They took and passed the GED exam when they were 15 1/2. One went right on to a community college; the other worked for a while, then was admitted to Golden Gate University. The GED is given at a great many locations, and also, I think, on line.

    Thing three: There are quite a few properly-accredited high schools that can be done entirely on line. The real expert in this field is Tom Nixon (who posts on this forum occasionally), who can be found at tomnixon.com. You may well find one that will accept some of the work you did at Julian, and then, after doing more work, get their properly-accredited diploma.

    Best wishes in your quest.

    John Bear
    Author of Bear's Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning


    Thank you so much!!!!

    Unfortunately I'm starting my college life a little late I'm 26. I do need a complete online college course as I stay home with my daughter full time ( she is 2). It sounds like I will have to go the GED route.

    Thank you for your time it's unfortunate that Julian Youth Academy continues to use ACI all those students are going to run across the same problem.

    Thank you again
    Kendra Quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    That should do, for now
    Another Brick in the Wall University

    School Motto, "We Don't Need No Education ."

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    To find some of their newly accredited schools, check their Facebook page. It seems when a school is visited, some pictures are taken and posted. I of course cannot say that all schools have this done but it is a place to find some information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM PhD View Post
    Another Brick in the Wall University - School Motto, "We Don't Need No Education."
    Good one, Ram, but not a Phil Collins tune. Pink Floyd, IIRC.

    Johann

    PS - Another possible motto from the same song: "Hey, Teacher ! Leave us kids alone!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johann View Post
    Good one, Ram, but not a Phil Collins tune. Pink Floyd, IIRC.

    Johann

    PS - Another possible motto from the same song: "Hey, Teacher! Leave us kids alone!"
    Indeed....
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    Yes, I knew it was Pink Floyd, I thought you were using songs in general. Didn't know all the listed songs were by Phil Collins (I'm not that familiar with Collins' music).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM PhD View Post
    (I'm not that familiar with Collins' music).
    Here's a list:

    Category:Phil Collins songs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Johann

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