Diploma in Dental Surgery from Foreign Credential Evaluator ???

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

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  3. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Foreign credential evaluation is an area that diploma mill operators have decided is a good secondary source of revenue... right after their fake diplomas, of course. It is very, very easy for someone to be ripped-off, first by the diploma mill operator, and then by the fake credential evaluator that said mill operator recommends... or, more often than not, owns.

    This "California University" place is obviously a joke... or, if it's not, then it obviously doesn't care if people think it is. From what it calls itself, to its amateurish web site, to its non-existent memberships (and their terrible-looking logos), to its bogus affiliation with AACRAO, to... well... I could go on and on.

    The reader should beware of places that call themselves foreign credential evaluators or evaluation services. There are very few that are legitimate; and it's easy to get ripped-off.

    Stick with either AACRAO's foreign credential evaluation service; or the services of virtually any NACES member agency. These are the agencies that most U.S. governmental offices/agencies, public and private employers, and accredited colleges and universities use.

    None of them, I assure you, are using "California University." Oy! :rolleyes:

    And, actually, as I think about it, though it's true that one should confine one's choice of evaluators to either AACROA or any NACES member agency, even that advice falls short in the real world. When deciding which evaluator to use, one should really ask the employer or university that is being asked to accept the foreign credential which evaluator it uses. Some entities to which one may present one's foreign degree may specify that they'll only accept evaluations from AACRAO; or that they'll only accept evaluations from any of two or three of the long list of NACES member agencies.

    As I've said here many times: If I were the holder of a foreign degree that I wanted declared as equivalent to a US regionally-accredited degree, I would shell-out the money to have both AACRAO and one of the larger, better-known NACES member agencies evaluate my degree... just so I'd have said evaluations ready to show someone if I ever needed to. It's not that expensive (usually under $500 per evaluation) and it's a once-in-a-lifetime expense that, in my opinion, those in the US seeking a foreign (non-US) degree should just factor-in to said degree's cost.

    Beyond that, if I encountered a potential employer or college/university that would not be satisfied with the evaluation of the particular NACES member agency that I had chosen; and, therefore, asks me to spend another $300 or so on yet a third evaluation by some other NACES member agency, then I'd probably just pony-up the money and do it.

    But one thing I can tell you, for certain: None of my money would ever go to "California University."
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Gregg,
    Can you imagine someone giving you a root canal with this credential.

    I was asking about the legality of such activity, we all know that one need to be licensed - thanks god but still.

    This kind of things get me varied.

    I'm surprised they can issue such a diplomas in California and not be challenged by law.

    learner
     
  5. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    A "California University" DDS "equivalency degree" wouldn't qualify somebody for a California dentistry license. Practicing dentistry without a license is against the law.

    I guess that a court would have to decide that. But my opinion is that this place is illegal as all hell.

    They do have an interesting gimmick:

    "We do not award academic degrees.. Hence, we are not registered with the California BPPVE.

    We issue the U.S. equivalency evaluation of academic credentials and specialized work experience towards the fulfillment
    of the requirements of a baccalaureate degree up to doctoral degree for the immigration services, licensure, employment
    and studies."


    http://www.cufce.org/index.html

    That was written by somebody whose native language isn't English.

    Apparently their argument is that since they use the word "equivalency", they have immunity from California education law.

    But despite their offering "equivalency degrees" instead of "degrees", they still suggest that their awards will be treated as if they were degrees by employers, licensing boards and so on. Nothing like having things both ways.

    And despite their avoidnce of the BPPVE, they claim all kinds of associations:

    "Organizational Partner: AACRAO - American Association of Collegiate Registrars & Admission Officers

    Our President is a Member of: NAFSA - Association of International Educators

    Accredited Member: Association of American Universities Foreign Credential Evaluation Inc."


    A search for 'association of american universities foreign credential evaluation' generated three hits, all on pages associated these people. The name seems to have been intentionally created to cause confusion with the legitimate Association of American Universities.

    http://www.aau.edu/
     

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