Institutionalizing a Fraud

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Institutionalizing a Fraud

    Valdosta State University's Web site lists an assistant professor of management as "Dr. Jack Malehorn."

    What the Web site doesn't say, and what students and colleagues probably don't know, is that Mr. Malehorn's Ph.D. is from Shelbourne University.

    Shelbourne does not exist. It never existed. It claimed to be based in Ireland, but actually was one of more than a dozen names used by an international diploma-mill company that sold degrees, beginning in the mid-1990s, for $500 to $2,500, according to an investigation last year by the Federal Trade Commission. The company, based in ROMANIA, sent millions of unsolicited e-mail messages around the world, promising recipients that they could receive degrees without doing any academic work. Along with the diplomas, the company also provided fake transcripts and phony letters of recommendation.

    In February it was revealed that Alan Williams, an associate professor of computer science at Southwestern Adventist University, in Keene, Tex., has a Ph.D. from Glencullen University, which is part of the same diploma-mill ring as Shelbourne. A spokeswoman for Southwestern Adventist says a doctorate is not required for the professor's position. Southwestern Adventist initially took no action against Mr. Williams, other than requiring that he stop saying he holds a Ph.D. Subsequently, he was asked to resign, the university's president says.

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    Did international criminal / criminals with Romanian and posibly Tel Aviv residency ever arested by the, police Interpol or FBI?

    Learner
     
  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Posting extensive copy without quoting a source and securing permission is plagiarism and actively discouraged here. Proclaiming what was new news 2 years ago is just weird.
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    i'm interested in the outcome of the investigation.


    This is the same article

    http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i42/42a00901.htm

    I pasted the link but it didn't work or I pressed the wron button.

    And whats wrong with trrying to get an update on 2 year old article?

    Did the International criminal/criminals e

    Learner
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    i'm interested in the outcome of the investigation.

    I pasted the link but it didn't work or I pressed the wron button.

    This is a very small extract from the article.

    http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i42/42a00901.htm

    And whats wrong with trying to get an update on 2 year old article?

    Who are the international criminal/criminals runing this ring?

    Dr. Bear used to provide info on this issue in the past maybe his contacts at FBI have an update.

    Learner
     
  5. chuckstop

    chuckstop New Member

    Dr. Jack Malehorn is now just listed as Mr. Jack Malehorn on the Valdosta site. The school catalog shows a B.S. and M.A. for his education.
     
  6. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Godammit, Lerner, STOP IT!

    You keep citing your bad English and your tiresome "oh, I amp juz poure russian eemigrant" bullsh_t as your excuse to break all the rules. But then you claim that you want to use better English and want to improve.

    Well, in English, we have a little thing called attribution wherein we don't copy and paste the words of others into and amongst our own words without somehow indicating that they're not our words. Why can't you seem to understand this? How many times have you been asked to please stop it? You claim you're an engineer, but I sweartogod someone must have dropped you on your head since you got your engineering degree or something. You behave like someone who's learning disabled, for godsake.

    PLEASE, FOR GODSAKE, STOP IT!

    If you copy and paste someone else's words into one of your posts, put quotes around them; or preface them with a line telling us where they're from; or indent them; or put them in a different color... or something!

    Do something -- ANYTHING -- to indicate to the reader which words in your posts are yours, and which ones are someone else's! Please!

    What's it going to take to finally get you to get this right and stop driving us all freakin' nuts?!?
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but it wasn't the intent.

    Learner
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It is intellectually dishonest to copy material and present it as your own. You've been told this so many times, I must conclude that being thought of as intellectually dishonest is an acceptable state to you.
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Is tread is not avtobiografii. Too bed.
     
  10. Guest

    Guest Guest


    Whew, that ECLA ire is up! ;)
     
  11. I rather enjoy it when "Lerner" cuts and pastes. Those are the only sentences he ever posts that I can understand at the first pass.....

    Oterwize te langooage is sumtime micksed upp....
     
  12. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Um, Jimmy, for the last time, mi compadre, it's E-L-C-A not E-C-L-A.
     
  13. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Fine. For the moment, I'll take you at your word on that... though, given the number of times this has been called to your attention, I can't, for the life of me, imagine why.

    But forget about what you did or did not intend. How 'bout are you now finally gonna' start doing it the right way? I mean, it's so simple. If you copy-and-paste something (which, by the way can be easily overdone, so I really wish you'd not rely so much upon the tactic), please somehow indicate that it's the words of someone else, and then please tell us whose words they are and where you got them! Provide a link to them, perhaps. And be sure to demarcate where the copied-and-pasted words begin and end, then where your words begin and end, then where someone else's words begin again and end again, then where your words begin again and end again, etc.

    Actually, the QUOTE tag is kinda' for that very purpose. I mean, it's mostly used around here when one person wants to quote in his post the part of another person's post to which he's replying, but it can also be used as a means of setting the copied-and-pasted words apart from your words.

    For example, let's say you want to quote from a newspaper article about diploma mills in Wyoming, and then, after said quote, you want to interject my own words of commentary. If so then, using the QUOTE vB code tag properly, the results would look like this:

    Then, right here, beneath the quote, in normal letters, is where you'd interject your own comments about whatever you've quoted above.

    Note how, in the quote itself, up in the non-bold, italized words, I've indicated that the words beneath it are not my own; that they're from the Billings Gazette newspaper; and by making the appropriate part it clickable, I've provided a built-in link to said article in said Billings Gazette. Then, beneath the italicized words, in bold, but still within the QUOTE, I quote only the specific part of the article upon which I want readers to focus; and upon which, after said quoted words, I intend to comment.

    The vB code used to do this is easy! I mean you do have an engineering degree, right? If so, then this stuff should be a breeze for you! I mean... c'mon! If Jimmy can do it! (Relax, Jimmy... just messin' witcha'.)


    But there are other ways you could do it, too. You could, for example, use the LIST vB code tag, combined with the COLOR tag, to set off the quoted text by both indenting it and making it in a different color, like this:
    • From an article in the Billings Gazette:

      Defenders of such schools say Wyoming is forward-thinking for accepting a relatively inexpensive way for working adults to get degrees in their spare time through mail and Internet courses. But others say the state has become a haven for diploma mills.

      "People start to giggle if you say Wyoming-licensed school, if you know about accreditation," said George Gollin, a University of Illinois physics professor and crusader against diploma mills, schools that offer degrees for little or no academic achievement.
    And then your comments thereon would be right here, beneath, in normally-colored, non-indented text.


    And there are tons of other ways, too. I mean... heck... if you'd just put quotation marks around the words of others in your posts, that would at least help a little. Like I said in my angry and frustrated post, above, just do something -- ANYTHING -- to set your copied-and-pasted words apart from your own words. ANYTHING (just so it's clear)!

    For godsake, Lerner... stop saying things like that it wasn't your intent, or apologizing, etc.; and start, finally, once and for all, actually doing the things people keep asking you to do! You wanna' get more respect around here? Stop being such a near-sociopath! Pay attention to the rules of the society in which you've chosen to participate, and then do honor to that society by bothering to observe its rules, customs, ways of doing things, etc. Sweat the small stuff. It shows not only that you care, but that you're smart enough to walk down the street, chew gum, and fart at the same time!


    And the ELCA has something to do with it... how, again? My ire is my own, thankyouverymuch. The ELCA, I'm quite certain, would disown both it, and me when I'm doing it.

    EDIT: And has, actually... now that I think about it.
     
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  14. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Ha! :p Ohgod... thank you. That made me laugh out loud. On that, I'm going to get up and go refill my coffee mug.
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hey Uncle Janko,

    I knew that, it was just a typo. I know it's Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, not Evangelical Church Lutheran of America.
     
  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Get your dander down, my friend, you know I was only being humorous. Hence the wink at the end of my original post. ;) ;)
    (two this time in case you missed the first).
     
  17. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Awright kids, now that everybody's happy again, as my late uncle Asher Traianescu used to say "you now have your guns and broken glass back and go play."
     
  18. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    "...on the freeway."

    An aunt of mine!
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    So after the good jokes and etc.

    Back to the issue at heand :)

    Did international criminal / criminals with Romanian and posibly Tel Aviv conections ever arested by the, police Interpol or FBI?

    Anyone knows the outcome of the investigation?

    Learner
     
  20. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I am sure there is a conspiracy to target specific individuals
    The fact that my attackers speak with one voice at one time seems to be a good indication. I am sure there is a steady stream of emails going back and forth between the participants in the conspiracy.

    Learner
     

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