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    ULC Unaccredited degrees

    'Just for fun' I did the Ph.D from the ULC five years ago.

    Cost 100usd and I have to answer 200 questions (multiple choice and normal).

    I know of other people who have done the same course and use the initials after their name. Are they asking for public humiliation?

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    Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by intsvc
    'Just for fun' I did the Ph.D from the ULC five years ago.

    Cost 100usd and I have to answer 200 questions (multiple choice and normal).

    I know of other people who have done the same course and use the initials after their name. Are they asking for public humiliation?
    Depends on the context.

    If they present themselves in a professional context as having earned PhDs, then the answer is: Yes.

    marilynd

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    Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by intsvc
    'Just for fun' I did the Ph.D from the ULC five years ago.

    Cost 100usd and I have to answer 200 questions (multiple choice and normal).

    I know of other people who have done the same course and use the initials after their name. Are they asking for public humiliation?
    If all you want to do is be a ULC minister and perform weddings, you're probably fine. If you're expecting to be Professor of Church History at Yale Divinity School, forget it.
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    Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by Ted Heiks
    If all you want to do is be a ULC minister and perform weddings, you're probably fine.
    My English Cocker Spaniel was ordained via the ULC about a year ago. No, I'm not joking! The online ordination came complete with a certificate that was printed on my PC printer. He has yet to perform a wedding, but when the time comes he is ready. His qualifications are impeccable....... :)

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    Re: Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by Russell


    My English Cocker Spaniel was ordained via the ULC about a year ago. No, I'm not joking! The online ordination came complete with a certificate that was printed on my PC printer. He has yet to perform a wedding, but when the time comes he is ready. His qualifications are impeccable....... :)
    Your ordained dog wasn't by any chance mentioned in that Reader's Digest article along with that MBA cat, now, was he?
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    Politics is made from two words: "poly" meaning "many" and "ticks" meaning "blood-sucking insects."

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    Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by intsvc
    'Just for fun' I did the Ph.D from the ULC five years ago.

    Cost 100usd and I have to answer 200 questions (multiple choice and normal).

    I know of other people who have done the same course and use the initials after their name. Are they asking for public humiliation?
    If you paid $100 for a phony degree, then you deserve public humiliation.

    (Of course, you could avoid that embarrassing fate by sending another $100 to me.)

    In most places use of academic titles isn't regulated by law. If somebody wants to call himself 'doctor' (outside a medical context), he's free to do it... and free to do it for free.

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    Re: Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by Russell
    My English Cocker Spaniel was ordained via the ULC about a year ago. No, I'm not joking!
    If your dog completed his own application and sent it in himself, then I'm more than ready to pay attention to his sermons.

    Serious note:

    I really do think that dogs have some lessons to teach their owners. They lack the cognitive and linguistic complexity of human beings, but they are masters of being fully present in each moment. Dogs are able to love and trust in ways that human beings typically can't.

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    Re: Re: Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by BillDayson
    If your dog completed his own application and sent it in himself, then I'm more than ready to pay attention to his sermons.

    Serious note:

    I really do think that dogs have some lessons to teach their owners. They lack the cognitive and linguistic complexity of human beings, but they are masters of being fully present in each moment. Dogs are able to love and trust in ways that human beings typically can't.
    Well, he did have a facilitator who led him through the application process. :D

    Seriously, your observation of dogs serving as didactic agents is on target. One of the best sermons I have heard was by an African-American preacher (Rev. B. W. Smith) who took the biblical text "Beware of dogs," and titled his sermon Watch Them Dogs. He compared the characteristics of various breeds to specific types of church members in a most hilarious manner, then concluded with a piece on the faithfulness of a dog to its master. I have listened to this sermon at least ten times over the past several years. As we say in preaching vernacular.........Good Preaching!

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    Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by BillDayson
    If you paid $100 for a phony degree, then you deserve public humiliation.

    (Of course, you could avoid that embarrassing fate by sending another $100 to me.)

    In most places use of academic titles isn't regulated by law. If somebody wants to call himself 'doctor' (outside a medical context), he's free to do it... and free to do it for free.
    How can it be phony when study was required?

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    Well, it's like this.

    You ask about ULC, plaintively. You ask about JMU, plaintively. How can it be a mill when study is required? Why not read the stuff in the articles section of degreeinfo? If the amount of "study" (an abusus linguae when it comes to either of the fake places you've brought up) is risible, it's a mill. If the level of critical thinking demanded is that of a cocker spaniel (nize doggie), it's a mill.

    If the amount of study you've done and the level of critical thinking you possess is such that you ask these questions seriously, you're mill fodder. Now, I prefer to think that you have a marvelous poker face and that these questions are a kind of joke. The other alternative is pretty grim, and I'd like to avoid it.

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    Originally posted by uncle janko
    If the level of critical thinking demanded is that of a cocker spaniel (nize doggie), it's a mill.
    Easy there, Unk........

    My ordained pup is an English Cocker Spaniel and one who happens to possess extraordinary critical thinking skills. You would be amazed at how adept he is at getting into the cabinet where the milk bones are kept..........;)

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    Re: Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by intsvc


    How can it be phony when study was required?
    If you can't tell the difference between a $100 phony doctorate and a legitimate doctorate, then you will need to start learning how to compete with Russell's pooch for those milk bones.

    marilynd

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    Re: Re: Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by marilynd
    If you can't tell the difference between a $100 phony doctorate and a legitimate doctorate...
    What she said. And I'll add, intsvc: If you can't tell the difference between a $100 phony doctorage and a legitimate doctorate, then you need to be posting over in the crabby forum, or on AED, or someplace similar where you'll be surrounded by more of your kind.

    The "How can it be phony when study was required" question, intsvc, has now raised a huge red flag about you around here. If you seriously don't understand how it all works, then that's fine. Everyone's gotta' learn sometime; and there's certainly no shortage, here, of good people who can help you understand it (starting with janko, who has referred you to an excellent place to begin). But just know that your question -- and the argument which underlies it -- has been asked (and argued) here by mill shills time and time again. Unless you want to be thought of by folks around here as one of them, then I suggest you get educated about it quick and figure out a way to disabuse yourself of that particular wonderment.
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    Originally posted by marilynd
    If you can't tell the difference between a $100 phony doctorate and a legitimate doctorate, then you will need to start learning how to compete with Russell's pooch for those milk bones.
    I happen to believe that Russell's pooch spent significant time, effort, and brain power getting those milk bones. Milk-Bone should be very proud that Russell's pooch has worked much harder to get at their fine product than he did "earning" his doctorate.

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    in the words of the appostale paul...it is not i who live but christ who live through me....and we call him the great physician...
    and in his words...who did john the baptist get his right to baptis from, was it God or man.
    Brothers in christ, Jesus intersedes for us and makes us what we are....so donot seek glory before man, but from God...
    The Ph.d just says another man recognized your right, and agrees, and intersedes between you and another man and not between
    you and God...God ordains man, man can only grant you a paper to please another mans quarel...so if you are honestly a believer
    CHRIST Justified you....and the humiliation lies on the fault finders not on you...and about your dog being ordained, God used even an
    ass to minister his word...these fault finders are alot like that ass...but you are a brother

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    Holy thread necromancy, Batman! A seven year old thread!
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