ULC Unaccredited degrees

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  1. intsvc

    intsvc member

    'Just for fun' I did the Ph.D from the ULC five years ago.

    Cost 100usd and I have to answer 200 questions (multiple choice and normal).

    I know of other people who have done the same course and use the initials after their name. Are they asking for public humiliation?
     
  2. marilynd

    marilynd New Member

    Depends on the context.

    If they present themselves in a professional context as having earned PhDs, then the answer is: Yes.

    marilynd
     
  3. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    If all you want to do is be a ULC minister and perform weddings, you're probably fine. If you're expecting to be Professor of Church History at Yale Divinity School, forget it.
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: ULC Unaccredited degrees

    My English Cocker Spaniel was ordained via the ULC about a year ago. No, I'm not joking! The online ordination came complete with a certificate that was printed on my PC printer. He has yet to perform a wedding, but when the time comes he is ready. His qualifications are impeccable....... :)
     
  5. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

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    Your ordained dog wasn't by any chance mentioned in that Reader's Digest article along with that MBA cat, now, was he?
     
  6. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    If you paid $100 for a phony degree, then you deserve public humiliation.

    (Of course, you could avoid that embarrassing fate by sending another $100 to me.)

    In most places use of academic titles isn't regulated by law. If somebody wants to call himself 'doctor' (outside a medical context), he's free to do it... and free to do it for free.
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

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    If your dog completed his own application and sent it in himself, then I'm more than ready to pay attention to his sermons.

    Serious note:

    I really do think that dogs have some lessons to teach their owners. They lack the cognitive and linguistic complexity of human beings, but they are masters of being fully present in each moment. Dogs are able to love and trust in ways that human beings typically can't.
     
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

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    Well, he did have a facilitator who led him through the application process. :D

    Seriously, your observation of dogs serving as didactic agents is on target. One of the best sermons I have heard was by an African-American preacher (Rev. B. W. Smith) who took the biblical text "Beware of dogs," and titled his sermon Watch Them Dogs. He compared the characteristics of various breeds to specific types of church members in a most hilarious manner, then concluded with a piece on the faithfulness of a dog to its master. I have listened to this sermon at least ten times over the past several years. As we say in preaching vernacular.........Good Preaching!

    www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/3338877/a/Watch+Them+Dogs.htm
     
  9. intsvc

    intsvc member

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    How can it be phony when study was required?
     
  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Well, it's like this.

    You ask about ULC, plaintively. You ask about JMU, plaintively. How can it be a mill when study is required? Why not read the stuff in the articles section of degreeinfo? If the amount of "study" (an abusus linguae when it comes to either of the fake places you've brought up) is risible, it's a mill. If the level of critical thinking demanded is that of a cocker spaniel (nize doggie), it's a mill.

    If the amount of study you've done and the level of critical thinking you possess is such that you ask these questions seriously, you're mill fodder. Now, I prefer to think that you have a marvelous poker face and that these questions are a kind of joke. The other alternative is pretty grim, and I'd like to avoid it.
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Easy there, Unk........

    My ordained pup is an English Cocker Spaniel and one who happens to possess extraordinary critical thinking skills. You would be amazed at how adept he is at getting into the cabinet where the milk bones are kept..........;)
     
  12. marilynd

    marilynd New Member

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    If you can't tell the difference between a $100 phony doctorate and a legitimate doctorate, then you will need to start learning how to compete with Russell's pooch for those milk bones.

    marilynd
     
  13. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

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    What she said. And I'll add, intsvc: If you can't tell the difference between a $100 phony doctorage and a legitimate doctorate, then you need to be posting over in the crabby forum, or on AED, or someplace similar where you'll be surrounded by more of your kind.

    The "How can it be phony when study was required" question, intsvc, has now raised a huge red flag about you around here. If you seriously don't understand how it all works, then that's fine. Everyone's gotta' learn sometime; and there's certainly no shortage, here, of good people who can help you understand it (starting with janko, who has referred you to an excellent place to begin). But just know that your question -- and the argument which underlies it -- has been asked (and argued) here by mill shills time and time again. Unless you want to be thought of by folks around here as one of them, then I suggest you get educated about it quick and figure out a way to disabuse yourself of that particular wonderment.
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

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    I happen to believe that Russell's pooch spent significant time, effort, and brain power getting those milk bones. Milk-Bone should be very proud that Russell's pooch has worked much harder to get at their fine product than he did "earning" his doctorate.
     
  15. Johnsloan1976

    Johnsloan1976 New Member

    in the words of the appostale paul...it is not i who live but christ who live through me....and we call him the great physician...
    and in his words...who did john the baptist get his right to baptis from, was it God or man.
    Brothers in christ, Jesus intersedes for us and makes us what we are....so donot seek glory before man, but from God...
    The Ph.d just says another man recognized your right, and agrees, and intersedes between you and another man and not between
    you and God...God ordains man, man can only grant you a paper to please another mans quarel...so if you are honestly a believer
    CHRIST Justified you....and the humiliation lies on the fault finders not on you...and about your dog being ordained, God used even an
    ass to minister his word...these fault finders are alot like that ass...but you are a brother
     
  16. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Holy thread necromancy, Batman! A seven year old thread!
     
  17. Johnsloan1976

    Johnsloan1976 New Member

    those who do evil dont come to the light lest their deeds be reproved...

    it is not a phony degree...if the road to death is wide and traveled by many, as it is proved on this page. and the road to life is narrow hard to travel and FEW find it...and you have honestly been walking it or searching it out, then you've put in the work...and if your a new born christian, you are justified still by Jesus...he did the work for you, and who can say Jesus didnt do the work...only those who are parishing....one more thing, God sent his only son to save the world...PEOPLE, not dogs, although your dog may be smart you are his master, and he does your will. but let every word be for the edification of the ears and the lifting up of others...let Christ master your life, because whether living or dead we belong to the lord...and your just delaying the envitable....
    that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is lord.
     
  18. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    ULC degrees are not totally worthless. The paper on which the diploma is printed must be worth at least a few dollars.
     
  19. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Sometimes, unbeknownst to ourselves, our statements drip with irony...
     
  20. scottae316

    scottae316 New Member

    Like most of these "degrees" they are only recognized by the "church" that "grants" them. Outside their respective religious body they are meaningless and if anybody would refer to an individual with a ULC "doctorate" degree as doctor or reverend doctor it is either out of ignorance or courtesy not because of any achievement.
     

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