Has anyone here experienced professional limitations because of a DETC degree?

The heading pretty much says it all. Has anyone here experienced any professional limitations because the degree they have attained was DETC accredited? Not including educational employees.

 

If the results continue to show that there are no special limitations placed on people by virtue of their DETC accredited degrees then I will not be particularly surprised. However, I'd like to point out that option number two on the poll betrays some severe experimenter bias. Also, why not include educational employees? Afraid the data will skew?

 

Actually Jack, I've never had a problem as of yet with my DETC degree, even though as you say, I do have my prejudices and I wear them on my sleeve. I do not think it is okay for HR people to be uniformed about accreditation when they are the ones who demand it. It is irritating. I have heard of people who have though and have also had discussions with state employees and have seen qualifications that specifically state that an RA degree is required.

As for including educational employees, I, as well as anyone who has read one of Dr. Bears guides or been a member on this site for any amount of time will know, educational employees historically have been required to have an RA degree to teach in a public school system or at the majority of colleges, universities and professional schools. I am sure there are exceptions, but they would not be typical.

Lastly this is not a scientific poll, I'm just curious.

 

OK, that's fair. I wasn't trying to be harsh or especially critical. My own opinion is that for many (or even most) people, a DETC degree will work just fine. I have no problem with that, with them, or with their schools. I can imagine scenarios where I might consider a DETC degree myself. OK? Enough disclaimers?

My main point was that your option #2 could just as easily have read:

"Yes, but infrequently due to a personnel person knowing a lot about accreditation."

I know it's not a scientific poll. But if you're curious, don't you want to know the REAL story? You have to wonder if your non-objective phrasing of the question keeps a segment of the population from responding. You see, the "science of surveys" is supposed to reveal the truth. If you don't even pretend to adhere to the science then you can't pretend to really want the truth.
Jack

 

This is a Biased Poll.......

In its current form, this poll cannot possibly produce an accurate portrait of DETC degree utility. To make the poll more accurate one would need to add a fifth category titled,

Yes, but only because the HR person had a copy of Rich Douglas' dissertation.

 

Jack,

I see your point. Yes it could be that the personnel person knows of a DETC accreditation quite well and deems it not worthy of their time. This is an entire possibility. Could I edit the poll I would but cannot after 10 minutes.

Therefore, anyone interested may put "yes but infrequently" without affronting the intelligence of their local HR representatives.

Russell,

I don't think I have read that document. Do you perhaps have a link?

 

While it seems we've made some progress I'm afraid that you haven't really understood what I have in mind (my fault, I'm sure).
What I was thinking was that HR personnel are subject to policies like any other employee. If the company policy states "RA degrees are the only acceptable degrees" then the HR person has no choice in the matter. It's not a matter of time or preference, it's just a company policy. There may be some (myself included) who would say this is narrow-minded but since when does that matter? These situations truly exist. You can rant and rail about injustice or you can just go get an RA degree.
Jack

 

Most polling data contain biases. It's hard to compensate for bias in such an unscientific poll as this.

 

C'mon Jimmy. Read the original poll and tell me that it's not biased. Then tell me that there's no clear correction to the bias.
Wise up.
Jack

 

Company policy, at least in the areas I have worked, have generally been made with at least the advice of an HR person. However for the working stiff such as myself, I understand that a policy is a policy.

As for the poll being biased, yes it is and admittedly so. Is this poll a waste of everyone's time? Could be, but it's still fun to read the results.

Are we getting a little over analytical? Probably.

All in fun.

So here is an idea. I will post another poll again in about a week as neutral in language as possible.

 

No need to get grumpy, Jack. Even with a "clear correction" such an unscientific poll would still contain biases.

 

I don't think the poll is a waste of time, I'm simply mildly concerned about how the results will be used. I'm not concerned about the originator of the poll, I'm concerned about all the millish people who read this forum. Here I'm asking friend to realize that the poll he creates in a casual manner might be quoted elsewhere as fact (and using degreeinfo as the source).
That's all.
Jack

 

Jimmy - read my post above and tell me I'm wrong. BTW, how's life on degreeboard?
Jack

 

I would like to see all NA degrees included in the poll, not just DETC.

 

My experience is now over 20 years old so it's probably an invalid example.

During a job interview with a television station, the fact that my CIE A.A.S. degree was non-traditional did come up. I got the job, true, but in those days one had to have a first class license to do the work and I held such a license. I don't know how much weight the degree carried or needed to carry.

When I explored earning a BSET at the local state university, I was told that no part of my earlier work would transfer. That, of course, would still be the case.

 

As Andy Taylor told Opie on one episode, "I believe we're kinda driftin'." I think we actually agree more than disagree here, Jack.

As far as degreeboard, see for yourself.