stevekurdzin --- Reporter for Sale In Vietnam

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  1. candice-vn

    candice-vn New Member

    Stevekurdzin, Civil engineer, falsely claim to be Indian actaully a Vietnamese reporter whose job is to blackmail local vietnamese education supplier and if these agents do not pay money to him, he put them onto the local newspapers with false allegations and rubbish information and desroy the credibilty of local providers.

    Steverkurdxin currenty promo0ting SCUPS in Vietnam and his mission is to destroy all other unaccredited universities in order for SCUPS to make money. He has approached many agents and asking for money in return for a good feedback in newspaper about the University we represents.

    Candice
     
  2. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Deja vu all over again

    A review of the thread-starter's earlier posts will give sufficient insight into her own motives and credibility.

    I rarely, if ever, agree with Mr Kurdzin. I am not his friend, or his defender. I have no relationship to any organization or institution with which he may be affiliated. But what we have here is classic Communist-style disinformation: smears, allegations, unsubstantiated claims, hidden affiliations, and a touch of hysteria.

    The response to this observation will, at least in time, include third-world guiltmongering, charges of American cultural insensitivity, conspiracy theories, redoubled personal attacks, and all-round perkiness.

    Ho hum.
     
  3. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Steve has made 20 posts to Degreeinfo in which has talked about:

    -- Paramount U. of Technology
    -- Pebble Hills U.
    -- Akamai University
    -- Lincoln University's representative's affiliation with Midwest American University
    -- American Pacific University
    -- Columbia Commonwealth University
    -- Madonna University

    In some of these cases he was providing information. In others he was asking questions.

    Do you think that he's treated any of these schools unfairly? If so which ones and why?
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hi Candice,

    Please provide some specific examples as to what you are having problems with, rather than general statements. Making general statements like this without specific examples borders on a violation of the TOS.

    Thanks,
     
  5. Ian Gordan

    Ian Gordan New Member

    A proof that Steve is the reporter

    In one of the posting in this forum, Steve mentioned that he attended Akamai University MBA preview in HCM and was offered USD1000 discount by Dr Ben Lee (Akamai Asia Representative) from Malaysia if he enroll immediately.

    In the article in the newspaper, the reporter mentioned that he pretended as student and attended the Akamai Preview in HCM, Dr Ben Lee offered him USD1000 discount if he enroll immediately.

    So, it is the solid proof that he is teh reporter, all the post he put in this forum are asking information so that he can write his report and publish in the local newspaper for the reason that he known of himself.

    In the report, he wrote that he has done a very detail research and it takes him a few month to do so. What is the purpose? His responsibility as a reporter? or $$$

    I repeat the same question that I want to ask. Why SCUPS, Central Pacific University and PWU are not included in the report in newspaper.
     
  6. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Speaking of TOS violations, yet another post by "Ian Gordan" smells bad.

    You can often judge a person by the calibre of his enemies.

    Mr Kurdzin must be a fine fellow.

    Ho hum.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Re: A proof that Steve is the reporter

    Sorry buddy, you've failed miserably to back up your accusation. Where's a shred of evidence that said reporter is extorting money. If I understand you correctly, that is the core of your accusation. The best you can do is, "responsibility as a reporter? or $$$". That seems very pathetic to me. Even more pathetic is listing a few diploma mills that haven't been discussed. There are THOUSANDS of diploma mills! It would be impossible for a reporter to write about all of them.
     
  8. Ian Gordan

    Ian Gordan New Member

    I am not talking about THOUSANDS of diploma mills but the unaccredited universities that operated in VN but not reported.

    Since, the reporter has done so much research, he can not claim that he does not know about SCUPS , Central Pacific Uni n Pacific Western Uni. Becos, all these are operating here with advertisement. Unless, he does not want to know or he intentional leave these few out. This is VN not USA.
     
  9. candice-vn

    candice-vn New Member


    HCMC Law Newspaper, May 11, 2005.
    By Nguyen Tan – Thao Ly

    “Banned in US, opened in Vietnam"

    "Checking the website of the State of Oregon and Michigan (USA), we found another surprising point: Both states declare CCWU and ACU qualifications are illegal and useless, because both universities have not met the minimum requirements for training standards.

    Degree Examining Office in Oregon also defines that ACU is part of the networks of fake schools cooperating with St Regis – a fake school in the Republic of Liberia.”


    ABOVE INFORMATION IS REPORTED BY STEVEKURTZIN AND PUBLISHED IN NEWSPAPER IN VIETNAM.

    NOTE THAT BOTH OF THESE NEWS ARE WRONG….FIRSTLY COLUMBIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY (CCWU) IS NEVER BEING LISTED AS DIPLOMA MILL IN OREGON OR MICHIGAN WEBSITE..

    SECONDLY, AMERICAN CAPITAL UNIVERSITY (ACU) LICENSED BY STATE OF WYOMING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AMERICAN CAPITOL UNIVERSITY OF ST. REGIS GROUP. EACH IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY.

    HOW ONE CAN POST SUCH INFORMATION THAT ARE NOT TRUE IN A NEWSPAPER. THIS IS ONLY POSSIBLE WHEN MR. STEVE HAS ACCEPTED MONEY FOR MAKING THESE DAMAGING INFORMATION APPEARED IN NEWSPAPER SINCE HE IS WORKING THERE.

    IF YOU HAVE AN AUDIO PLAYER IN THIS FORUM RECORDER AND ANY OF YOU UNDERSTAND VIETNAMESE, WE COULD THEN PASS YOU THE AUDIO TAPED CONVERSATION OF MR. STEVE DEMANDING FOR MONEY SO THAT HE CAN STOP THE NEGATIVE INFORMATION AND POST SOME GOOD THINGS ABOUT CERTAIN UNIVERSITIES. IT IS A TOTAL BLACKMAIL.

    WHAT IS TOS? AND WHATEVER IT IS, PERHAPS MR. STEVE IS MORE GUILTY THEN ANY OF US HERE.


    THANKS A LOT,

    CANDICE
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hi Candice,

    I don't see anything you've stated that supports your assertion that Steve tried to extort money. I don't even see where he's said anything positive about other diploma mills, which IIRC you also asserted. Did he try to extort money from you?

    Regarding your current accusation of inaccurate reporting. He didn't say in the quote that you provided that the ODA called them a diploma mill. So you're just plain wrong about that. Regarding your other accusation of inaccurate reporting, you seem to be ranting against statements made by the ODA rather than Steve.

    It seems to me that you're doing exactly what you are accusing Steve of doing, that is inaccurate reporting.

    Take care,
     
  11. candice-vn

    candice-vn New Member

    Hello Bill,

    I should skip the extorsion part since there is no documentary proof with me at this time.

    Steve also reported the following;

    "If following a one-year MBA program, learners must go to class 8 hours a day, not to mention a lot of book to read before going to class. And the learners must be very good at English to follow.”



    Do you agree with him that for distance learning MBA, student need to attend 8 hours a day? that is 40 hour a week.


    Candice
     
  12. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Refresh my memory. Which degree mill are you shilling for in this roundabout fashion? What boss do you hope will read your vituperative posts? You post random sentences from some article in a VN paper and try to indict someone who evidently made your company uncomfortable. That won't work. Not here, anyway.

    Ho hum.
     
  13. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Perhaps Candice and Ian can tell us the name(s) of the Police authorities to whom these illegal acts have been reported. You have, after all, reported these crimes to the Police, no? You could give us their names so that when we are contacted by the Police as a part of their investigation, we will be certain to respond. If I don't know the names of the Police I will have to assume that they are simply imposters who are trying to pull me into some sort of elaborate scam. Of course, once the Police are involved there is no need for civilians to continue to pursue the matter, right? By the way, I don't believe that Candice or Ian have clearly stated who they are and how they are involved in this unfortunate chain of events. I am particularly interested in knowing the name of your employer(s). I'm certain they will make full disclosures of their involvement.
    Jack
     
  14. candice-vn

    candice-vn New Member

    It is better not to fight with an idiot; first he will bring you to his lever and then beat you with his experience.


    Candice
     
  15. candice-vn

    candice-vn New Member

    typing error...level..not lever
     
  16. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    My Dad said it a slightly different way,
    "Never argue with a moron, people may not be able to tell the difference."
    On the other hand, I think it's clear to everyone here that when challenged to bring proof, you ran away.
    Good-bye.
    Jack
     
  17. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    But we're not fighting with you, Candice, and the lever of your idiotic agitprop
    pries nothing loose around here, even when you do your level best.
    We're simply denouncing you.

    Ho hum.
     
  18. candice-vn

    candice-vn New Member

    L'anglais n'est pas ma première langue et quelquefois il est dur d'exprimer mes pensées et c'est les raisons j'essaie d'utiliser le français. Le Vietnamien est ma première langue mais les gens à ce forum ne comprendraient pas cette langue et donc j'opte pour le français et espère que quelqu'un pourrait le mettre dans l'anglais nécessaire pour transmettre mon point.

    L'oncle, vous continuez à écrire mal des remarques du tiers-monde et a l'air de vous croient que nous tous ici dans ce tiers-monde sommes les mauvais gens! Je vous trouve extrêmement impolis, arrogant, arrogant et impoli. En étant un pasteur on s'attendrait à ce que vous soyez un humble et en bas à la personne de terre, mais au contraire vous êtes tout aussi opposés.

    Être né dans le premier monde ne vous fait pas un être supérieur et ne vous donne pas le droit ou le privilège de condamner le tiers-monde. Nous pouvons sembler impolis mais c'est inconscient à cause de la connaissance limitée d'anglais mais dans la comparaison vous êtes délibérément impolis et par moments je dois utiliser le dictionnaire jus pour comprendre qu'est-ce que sont vous l'écriture.

    Je gagne ma vie en recrutant des adultes travaillant dans les programmes de degré offerts par les universités non-accréditées différentes et reçois une commission sur par base d'étudiant et donc je n'ai aucun patron pour faire son rapport à et je n'ai aucune raison de s'enfuir et m'enfuir de qui et que ?

    L'objectif de ce fil était de prévenir des membres du conseil d'administration contre ceux qui profitent de ce forum et l'utilisent de leur avantage en faisant semblant d'être l'étudiant mais en fait ils sont le coupable et les espions.

    Candice
     
  19. Guest

    Guest Guest

    {Translation of Candice's French message follows. Just because I found it an interesting exercise. -qtj}

    L'anglais n'est pas ma première langue et quelquefois il est dur d'exprimer mes pensées et c'est les raisons j'essaie d'utiliser le français. Le Vietnamien est ma première langue mais les gens à ce forum ne comprendraient pas cette langue et donc j'opte pour le français et espère que quelqu'un pourrait le mettre dans l'anglais nécessaire pour transmettre mon point.

    {English is not my first language and sometimes it is hard to express my thoughts and that is why I shall try to use French. Vietnamese is my first language but the people on this forum would not understand that language and thus I choose French and I hope that someone can put it into the English necessary to convey my point.}

    L'oncle, vous continuez à écrire mal des remarques du tiers-monde et a l'air de vous croient que nous tous ici dans ce tiers-monde sommes les mauvais gens! Je vous trouve extrêmement impolis, arrogant, arrogant et impoli. En étant un pasteur on s'attendrait à ce que vous soyez un humble et en bas à la personne de terre, mais au contraire vous êtes tout aussi opposés.

    {Uncle, you continue to write a lot of comments about the Third World and it seems that you believe that we here in the Third World are bad people! I find you extremely impolite, arrogant, arrogant and impolite. Being a pastor, one would expect you to be humble and with the lowliest person, but to the contrary, you are the complete opposite.}

    Être né dans le premier monde ne vous fait pas un être supérieur et ne vous donne pas le droit ou le privilège de condamner le tiers-monde. Nous pouvons sembler impolis mais c'est inconscient à cause de la connaissance limitée d'anglais mais dans la comparaison vous êtes délibérément impolis et par moments je dois utiliser le dictionnaire jus pour comprendre qu'est-ce que sont vous l'écriture.

    {Being born in the First World does not make you a superior being and you neither have the right nor privilege to condemn the Third World. We can seem impolite, but this is unconcious/unintentional and the result of our limited knowledge of English, whereas in comparison, you are deliberately impolite and from time to time I must use the dictionary to understand what you have written.}

    Je gagne ma vie en recrutant des adultes travaillant dans les programmes de degré offerts par les universités non-accréditées différentes et reçois une commission sur par base d'étudiant et donc je n'ai aucun patron pour faire son rapport à et je n'ai aucune raison de s'enfuir et m'enfuir de qui et que ?

    {I make a living recruiting working adults into degree programs offered by different non-accredited universities and I receive a commision based on student base and thus I have no boss at all to make a report to and have no reason whatsoever to flee and flee from whom and [what]?}

    L'objectif de ce fil était de prévenir des membres du conseil d'administration contre ceux qui profitent de ce forum et l'utilisent de leur avantage en faisant semblant d'être l'étudiant mais en fait ils sont le coupable et les espions.

    {The goal of this thread was to warn members of the board about those who profit from this forum to their advantage by pretending to be students but who in fact are culprits and spies.}

    Candice

    {Candice}
     
  20. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    More agitprop, helpfully translated. More character assassination, helpfully translated. This dispute, of course, has no bearing upon Quinn Tyler Jackson. Perhaps Mr Jackson can explain his intervention in this discussion.
     

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