Detc ?

Is DETC got soft on substandard schools?

MU in my view is a sub standard school.
How serius the changes thay have to implement besides dropping the Post Graduate programs?

On one hand I'm happy that hey will improve their operation to the level of DETC on the other hand it looks to ezy.

I could be wrong but thats how it seems to me, i don't know if DETC is to lax in it's requirements.

They sure have a nitch but I'm not sure it's to their advantage in long term, I think this may turne the acceptance of DETC accredited degrees backwards.

Learner

 

The finding that DETC-accredited degrees are regularly accepted only about 20% of the time by RA schools suggests that many educators agree with you.

 

No, not at all. Just another attempt to stifle competition! DETC schools generally charge away less per credit hour than RA schools.

Not accepting DETC credits is a way to force students to avoid DETC schools and pay exorbitant tuition rates at RA schools.

 

Do they also not accept credits earned by heavily discounted in-state tuition?

 

To stay in the same price range I look at MBA at Cal State Domingo Hills and lets say South West in LA.

I don't think it's all business or politics I do think its the level and academics as well.

Learner

 

This doesn't make sense. Transfer-of-credit and admissions decisions are made after the student has attended the DETC-accredited school. At that point, the school would be motivated to accept him/her and give transfer credit where it is due. There is no competition at this point, and no way to influence a decision (to attend a DETC-accredited school) that has already been made and acted upon.

Unless you have some evidence of a vast conspiracy among RA schools to force potential future students to avoid DETC-accredited schools today, I don't see how this holds up.

Occam's Razor suggests that, logically, we should accept the answer requiring the fewest assumptions. The simpler answer is that RA schools, largely, perceive credits and degrees coming from NA schools as being outside their (academia's) universe. That seems to be changing over time, but almost certainly not because some incredible consipiracy is being overcome.

 

Dunno.

But whether DETC is soft or not, if any accreditor repeatedly inducts iffy schools with questionable histories, the accreditor will eventually have a credibility problem on its hands.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'MU'.

Apart from the Cal Coast case which has been talked to death, has DETC accredited any schools that people find seriously substandard? Are there any problematic schools on their applicant list?

Personally, I don't see anything on the DETC accredited list that's really hideous. There don't seem to be any mills or outright jokes.

The problem that I see is that there isn't a whole lot that's distinguished either. The DETC list is weighted down with what appear to me be some very undistinguished institutions. The DETC "ivy league" (if you exclude the Australians) could maybe boast of being equivalent to weaker RA programs. There's simply no DETC MIT, there aren't any schools that have institutional reputations generated through their own accomplishments.

While that's probably not terribly damaging for commoditized vocational degrees used by mid-career individuals for promotional purposes (non-competitive applicaions where recognized accreditation is the primary consideration), it's going to have a big-time impact if DETC moves into accrediting doctoral programs.

 

For me it began when they accredited AICS.

AICS was substandard school at the time.
Teaching computer programming with requirements for BSCS degree equal to 2 or 3 semesters in RA accredited school.

AICS was accredited by WAUC.

Today they under changed name ACCIS they are definitely an improved school.
DETC accreditation was a very positive force that made their curriculum to adhere to accepted standard CS curriculum.

But in the IT industry AICS was a joke.

As time passes by and the history of this institute is forgotten they are being judged more and more by the quality of graduates they produce, the ability of their graduates to get employment and get in to more advanced programs at other universities.

Madison University – another sub standard school WAUC accredited – or was and now NACHE accredited is applying for DETC accreditation.

CCU is the only school that I thing had reasonably standard unaccredited program.
They applied the recommended improvements and on a second pass they got accredited.