List of recognised providers in the UK

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  1. ianmoseley

    ianmoseley New Member

    The DfES in conjunction with the Home Office has published a list of recognised providers

    http://www.dfes.gov.uk/providersregister/

    The idea of this list was to deal with visa fraud by removing from recognition those colleges with no premises, or who did not ensure students attended classes.

    Being on this list does NOT mean that the colleges are necessarily accredited. The limitations of recognition are given in the documents accessible from the site. I have severe reservations about the bona fides of some of the bodies and their adveriising material and will be raising this with the DfES.
     
  2. deanhughson

    deanhughson New Member

    Letter I wrote to British Press

    TO: Editors
    FROM: Dean Hughson, 16534 E. Arroyo Vista Dr Unit 1 Fountain Hills Az
    85268 tel 480-836-2314
    date; 2-5-05

    For many of us who have taken a History of Medicine course, we realize
    that 'recognized medicine' came out of the UK and even indeed the
    first idea of 'registering' doctors came from your country.

    Recently a rash of offshore medical schools have popped up in England.
    For instance currently you can attend St. Christophers in Luton
    (www.stchris.edu) which is actually a Senegal chartered medical
    school, Grace University (http://www.grace-usom.org/contact.htm) which
    used to be chartered in Belize and St. Kitts in the past but had its
    charter removed, London College of Medicine
    (http://www.londonmedicalschool.org/) which claims to be affiliated
    with IUHS-St. Kitts, European College of Medicine
    http://www.euromedicine.org/, which claims to be related to St Luke
    School of Medicine, an unchartered medical school which claims to be
    in Liberia and Ghana but the govts, say it isn't. The list goes on: I
    found a painter in Oxford who has put up a website claiming to offer
    offshore medical degrees http://www.londonmedicalschool.com
    Even an island with an active volcano, Montserrat, with its' residents
    being sent off island, has a school, University of Arts and Sciences
    http://www.mcl-edu.co.uk/index2.html in London and yet it has no
    charter from the country it supposedly is coming from.

    Which govt. agency in the UK is supervising these schools? How do your
    consumers like the idea of being seen in NHS hospitals by students
    apparently supervised by medical schools thousands of miles away? In
    a white coat all people look like doctors. How do the students get
    visas to study in the UK? How does the DEPARTMENT FOR EDUCATION &
    SKILLS - REGISTER OF PROVIDERS register these schools so that the kids
    can receive visas when it says that the schools must be approved and
    recognized to register?

    There are several hundred medical students in white coats running
    around London playing doctor and no one seems in charge. It is a shame
    for the seat of medical knowledge and degrades the medical profession
    and can cause British MD degrees to be lessened in the eyes of the
    world.

    Dean Hughson
     
  3. ianmoseley

    ianmoseley New Member

    I have forwarded this to the DfES who , in gneral terms, are responsible for policy. Enforcement is a problem because

    1] It is at local authority level, with different priorities in different areas.

    2] The legislation is such that provided the body declares its degrees to be non-UK then the main restriction (on offering UKdegrees) does not apply

    3] Where the college and the ISP for the web-site are outside the EU, enforcement is almost impossible especially if they are (as sometimes the case) based in one of the more 'laisse faire' US states.
     

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