Acceptability of unaccredited J.D. degrees

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by nosborne48, Jan 13, 2005.

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    California Southern Law School, an unaccredited California resident part time law school, posted a list of its graduates and where they are practicing now. See it at www.cslawschool.com/grads.htm

    I was very interested to see the number of State jobs these lawyers hold. There are even several Superior Court Judges.

    Although CSL is not a D/L school, I imagine that the same opportunities are open to both groups of graduates.

    As we've seen before, in State employment, the license, not the degree, is the main thing!
     
  2. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Yes, well there are a number of examples where the specific position is referenced (Superior Court Judge) but there are far more examples where the graduates firm, company or organization is listed. The person might be working as a paralegal or a mail clerk for all we know. Despite all that, I've stated before that there are jobs around where having a background in Law puts the applicant at an extreme advantage, regardless of their ability to appear in court or otherwise act as a bar-passed attorney. The field of human rights is the easiest example.
    Jack
     
  3. A Doctor of Jurisprudence can make more $$ and work in more important positions with a DETC or State Approved Law degree with the respective State License. More that an individual with Phoenix, Union, NCU, etc RA degree.

    As I say before, a Lawyer License, open more doors.
     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Oh, sure, and there are also several examples where the listed graduates are partners in their own firms. I don't think we can draw any conclusions regarding the acceptibility of unaccredited J.D.s in the private Bar.

    What stirred my interest, though, was the number of State civil service jobs these people occupy.
     
  5. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    The point of el troll's post was to slam Union, Nosborne. If you review his cascade of inanities, the thread that runs so true (regardless of thread) is promoting any unaccredited school against any accrediting process or watchdog agency. The corollary to this Dreckkuenstlerei is taking whacks at Phoenix and Union because of Rich Douglas' connections to those schools, which in this twisted viewpoint proves something bad about those two schools in particular and regional accreditation in general.

    So, Don't Feed The Troll.

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  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Uncle,

    Quite so. I should have addressed my response to Jack Tracey.

    Jack Tracey,

    BTW, I would be very surprised to learn that the CSL grads working for the District Attorney and Public Defender offices are all, or even mostly, in non lawyer positions. State criminal practice is almost entirely litigation and thinly staffed and poorly funded at that. Such offices rarely have a paralegal; certainly no such office is likely to relegate a licensed attorney to non attorney work. Caseloads just won't allow it.

    It is also unlikely that these people work there as J.D.s who haven't passed the Bar. Again, what funding there is for lew trained people goes overwhelmingly to pay lawyers not support staff.

    The feds DO use some law trained people in criminal law non litigation positions but even there, the bulk of the funding goes to lawyers.
     
  7. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    The CA-approved (and Calbar accredited) San Francisco Law School was founded in 1909 and is the oldest law nightschool in California. It has this to say about its graduates:

    Over the years, graduates of San Francisco Law School have regularly achieved impressive successes. Among the school's outstanding alumni are California State Governor, the late Edmund G. (Pat) Brown, former Lt. Governor Leo T. McCarthy, former Undersecretary of The United States Department of Energy, Joseph F. Salgado, past President of The State Bar of California, P. Terry Anderlini and past President of The National Bar Association, Thomas J. Broome. Also, State Senator Milton Marks, Superior and Municipal Court Judges Victor Campilango, Merle R. Eaton, Eugene W. Krum, Betty L. Lamoreaux, Philip J. Moscone, Lynn O'Malley Taylor, and Marilyn Pestarino Zecher to name a few, as well as countless other renowned and distinguished Bay Area and California attorneys.

    http://www.sfls.edu/home.htm
     
  8. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Good one!:D
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Uncle,

    The closest I can get to "the troll" in Spanish is "el enano" which, strictly speaking, means "dwarf" (as in Snow White and the Seven)

    A midget is a diminutive drawf, of "enanito". I don't like this though because the "-ito" diminutive implies a certain affection as in "mi hito" as a small and beloved child.

    One of our co workers says she would translate it as "el monstruo" but I don't think that's exactly what we mean by "troll" in this context though this is the word often used for the creature under the bridge.

    I therefore suggest "el enano" as our standard Spanish term for "the troll".
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Actually Internet trolling derives from the fishing activity rather than the monster fable.
     
  11. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    I can, without effort, bow to your superior knowledge on the subject. Personally, I'd never recommend a program such as the one described. Rather, I was just thinking aloud (so to speak) about the topic of utility as it might apply to such a degree.
    Jack
     
  12. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I have no animus against any JD program which will do the trick as far as the relevant state bar examination and state bar association is concerned.
     
  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I couldn't find a verb other than "pescar" for any sort of fishing, either. There MUST be such a verb, though.
     

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