Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be embarassed.

Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be embarassed.
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The link above is not only claiming Liberian accreditation but they have the nerve to call Liberia an American colony. It is an insult to the Liberians and a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the United States' position in the world. The U.S. is not a colonial empire. If this charlatan is a South African, I can understand his ego as a white person from South Africa assuming such a ridiculous thing but it must be clearly stated here for others that at no time was the REFPUBLIC OF LIBERIA a colony of the United States.

The difference between the United States and these South African whites who assume a lot about black Africa is the USA did not subjugate Black Africans nor did she colonize them. I find it very offensive and will do something about it. J F S Marketing is a fraud like St. Regis. They will be stopped in all parts of the world from claiming Liberian accreditation when infact they are not accreditated at all. St. Regis is setting these degree mills up for the biggest embarassment of their lives.

These scum bags never stop their nonsense. I mean these people are real savages!

 

I agree totally except for one thing: nobody connected to St Regis is capable of embarrassment.

 

Ouch.

 

Whose head is under those Foster Grants?

Staffers whose heads are moved from body to body are not likely to be concerned with minor issues of veracity and accuracy.

G

 

I suspect that the slave ancestors of present-day African Americans might view this piece of information as "interesting," to say the least.



Tom Nixon

 

actually, it could be argued that Liberia was a US colony, but not as you might think. Liberia is where former slaves were sent back to Africa to resettle themselves in Africa but unfortunately almost all were attacked and killed by the native tribes surrounding the area. The capital of Liberia is Monrovia...after Pres Monroe and its flag is almost the same as the US except it only has one star.

 

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With all due respect, you are incorrect.

It cannot be argued that Liberia was a U.S. colony. But, because the settlers were (black) Americans, and had substantial ties to the U.S., Liberia did enjoy a "special" relationship with the U.S.

Liberia is not the place to which U.S. slaves were "sent back". The blacks that chose to move to Liberia (which it wasn't named then), did so of their own free will, and had to raise their own money for passage. There have been a few "Back to Africa" movements, initiated by blacks for blacks, in U.S. history. For reference, you can look up the Pan-Africanist Marcus Garvey and his organization the UNIA.

To my knowledge, most of the former slaves and free blacks (those who were never slaves; they existed, but were few in number), who relocated to Liberia, were not "almost all" massacred by the "native tribes". There was serious conflict between the relocated blacks and the Africans that were already in what was to become Liberia. However, that was because the blacks adopted the superiority complexes, attitudes, and affectations of American whites when dealing with the indigenous Africans, and creating a new country. In short, they became the same kind of people that they were leaving the U.S. to get away from.

Additionally, African ethnic groups do not refer to themselves as a 'tribe'. They refer to themselves, and to other ethnic groups, by their names (i.e. Fula, Wolof, Mandinka, SuSu, Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, etc). Therefore, it is inappropriate to refer to them as a 'tribe'. For example; however, Native Americans in the U.S. do refer to themselves as a 'tribe'. Thus, when referring to a Native American nation (most of the tribes are their own nations within the U.S.), it would not be inappropriate to refer to them as such.

Yes, Liberia's capital Monrovia is named after President James Monroe. He was the president during that time. And, yes, the Liberian flag is reminiscent of the U.S. flag; but given the history of the founding (and founders) of the country, it's hardly unexpected.

I don't know if you were just throwing out some Liberian trivia, but the two examples you gave above don't support your POV. However, if that's not what you were trying to do, anyway, then it's a moot point.

Rosalind

 

Thanks, Rosalind.

 

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Thank you Rosalind my dear.

And for the record to others: My reference to the group who left America ; not doing well has to specifically do with all the hard work put into establishing the nation and later, having to deal with a nation taken over currently by fanatics. That is not a success story in my opinion. Perhaps staying in the South would have been okay. We hope and pray that the rightful leadership will emerge someday and set the record straight. " The love of liberty brought us here."

 

Re: Re: Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be embarassed.

Mr. Nixon in context of the asrgument Sir, the USA did not go to Africa, start a colony, snatch African land and call them second class citizens in their own home. I do no speak of American Indians, they can argue their own point.

The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE did not do what the South African Whites did to Africans in their own country. Now, the story about slavery and problems of black and white relations in America is not part of this context Sir.

Furthermore, the USA is the most generous nation in the entire world in comparison to other nations who kept slaves; although the idea of slavery is repugnant to me as a Liberian. The blacks in the United States are the most advanced and wealtiest of any blacks in the entire world, you can admit that.

Sticking with my point though, USA did not colonize blacks in Africa and subjugate them in their own country like the South Africans did to Blacks in recent history. I'm not talking 400 years ago. To insinuate such a proposterous idea is a shame regardless of who says it, be it black or white.

 

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Rosalind:

Thank you for that great response. I'm a Liberian citizen who agrees with your response totally. Thank you! Justifying St. Regis' action by saying Liberia is a Colony will not wash...






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Re: Re: Re: Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be emb

Perhaps you should work on clarity in your writing. You specifically said:

the USA did not subjugate Black Africans nor did she colonize them

While I would agree that we did not colonize Africa, use of 'nor' leaves the first part open for debate. Near as I can tell from your writing, we were good slaveholders. Can such a thing be possible?

And, by the way, thank you for helping my point by bring up Native Americans. It's nice when people make your argument for you.



Tom Nixon

 

Untrue. How did you arrive at that conclusion?

 

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Tom Nixon:

I see, you will never get my point. Thank you for not comprehending anything about the context of the argument. You are very interesting.




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No problem!

 

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No problem.

Perhaps staying in the south would have been okay, had the expats decided not to go to Africa... but who knows? It all depended on what those, who chose to leave, could bear to take in terms of the racism, terrorism, and oppression that was running mostly unchecked in the south back then.

For some, the hope of change that the future held was too long a time coming. I can definitely see someone deciding to create their own destiny, instead of letting a racist society tell them what they were and were not allowed to do, and then watching the creation, and implementation, of the legal and/or economic blocks to enforce those "norms".

 

Re: Re: Re: Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be emb

Do you mean is (presently) or was (in the past)? I don't know which context to understand the point in...

Blacks in the UK are very advanced and wealthy, too. American blacks just happen to live in the wealthiest and most powerful country out of them all. However, that still doesn't negate the horrors of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade or make up for them.

And, actually, on a related note there are some scholars (casually read this stuff long ago, so I don't have any names) who theorize that the reason Africa, collectively, is having the problems it is having now is because of the "brain drain" due to the slave trade. It's not only the black community in the USA that's trying to come up from under the damage slavery and all it's progeny caused; the trade also damaged Africa.

Slavers only kidnapped the most healthy, the most intelligent, and the most skilled Africans, before the actual transport of slaves was finally stopped. And to add more levity to this fact, there were uncountable numbers of kidnapped Africans that did not survive the Middle Passage. That's a permanent loss, and finite brain-drain.

 

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No problem. I am not really following the soap opera that is St. Regis _____ (don't know if it's a university or college). However, I had to jump in and correct the ignorance of my fellow DegreeInfo'er (LOL) before somebody actually believed him/her.