Saint Regis reopens

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  1. galanga

    galanga New Member

    Saint Regis is open for business.

    The "Schools of SRU" includeAnd, of course, SRU still asserts it has something to do with Liberia:
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  2. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    It's a creative idea. St. Regis is now just the coordinator of a federation of tiny independent schools. It's good to see someone using the internet in an innovative way, rather than simply trying to recreate traditional structures in a virtual environment.

    Could this be the eBay of higher education -- a setup in which small institutes can reach a wide audience under the umbrella of a larger organization?

    Incidentally, the new St. Regis reminds me of the 70's sci fi TV program Battlestar Galactica, with its "ragtag fleet of fugitives." Of course, St. Regis plays the role of the magnificent, yet battered, Battlestar. And the small independent schools form the ragtag fleet.
     
  3. galanga

    galanga New Member

    the degrees are issued by SRU

    The "schools" award Saint Regis degrees... ...here too. That would seem to make SRU a "university" as opposed to a broker of services in the AdvancedU mold. Also, "Graduation fees" are paid to SRU.

    And let's not forget the degree-granting "Branford Academy Preparatory High School, a division of internationally renowned St. Regis University."

    Much as one might take issue with the use of the word in this context, SRU does refer to itself as Saint Regis University. And they do call some of their people "professors."


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  4. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    I'm not claiming that the new St. Regis is legitimate. But I think it has an interesting approach.

    I have been interested in trying something similar for non-credit education -- i.e. for people (such as myself) wanting the types of courses offered by alllearn.org, teach12.com, university.barnesandnoble.com, etc. Of course, these three can stand on their own. But perhaps there's a place for an "education mall" where smaller providers can offer their wares under one roof?
     
  5. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    According to a post that the moderator 'J' at Degreeboard.com made last Friday, the revived SRU website was featuring stuff about earning degrees from a "famous Indian university". (Kalinga University in Chhattisgarh, it seems.)

    But when I looked at SRU's website today, the India stuff seems to have been removed.

    See here:

    http://www.degreeboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=73

    The thread is very interesting, both for its links to a new version of University College of Advanced Studies that offers quickie Kalinga PLA degrees from an online form very similar to SRU's old "fast-track" page, and for John Dovelos' denial that he has anything to do with it.

    http://www.university-services.net/kalinga/kalingapla.htm

    Nevertheless, Dovelos was extremely incensed that Degreeinfo dissed Kalinga, see here:

    http://www.degreeboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=78
     
  6. galanga

    galanga New Member

    it's hidden

    SRU's accreditation page still goes on about its Indian connections, though:
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  7. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    Kalinga is no longer recognised by the State in which it was initially registered, although Kalinga is challenging this in court. It failed to meet the lodgement of a security deposit required by the State.

    On its website, it is claiming recognition from the UGC of India. However, I closer look at the letter from UGC to Kalinga has nothing to do about accreidtation; simply asking the university to complete a form before having a site visit.

    Kalinga through The University College of Advanced Studies is selling its degrees on the basis of prior learning and is doing everything that is abhorent to the Indian system of education and the requirements of UGC.

    This is a blatant attempt by Kalinga and UCAE to rip off as much money as possible before someone takes legal action. I hope the Indian courts are aware of their activities when their appeal case is heard.
     
  8. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    'Congratulate' me!

    Oh, all you might all like to 'congratulate' me: I have just been informed that on the basis of my previous qualifications and experience, and with no further work whatsoever, (except get my credit card out of my wallet and key some numbers!) I have been awarded a brand new doctorate from Kalinga University!

    Needless to say, the check is not in the mail!
     
  9. adamsmith

    adamsmith member

    And I should have added that the whole process of 'evaluation' took less than 24 hours!

    All I can say is that the faculty of Kalinga must be working 3 shifts to be able to process these 'overnight' doctoral applications!
     
  10. Bob Gbar

    Bob Gbar New Member

    Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be embarassed.

    http://onlinedegree.co.za/user/content.php?page=12


    The link above is not only claiming Liberian accreditation but they have the nerve to call Liberia an American colony. It is an insult to the Liberians and a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the United States' position in the world. The U.S. is not a colonial empire. If this charlatan is a South African, I can understand his ego as a white person from South Africa assuming such a ridiculous thing but it must be clearly stated here for others that at no time was the REFPUBLIC OF LIBERIA a colony of the United States.

    The difference between the United States and these South African whites who assume a lot about black Africa is the USA did not subjugate Black Africans nor did she colonize them. I find it very offensive and will do something about it. J F S Marketing is a fraud like St. Regis. They will be stopped in all parts of the world from claiming Liberian accreditation when infact they are not accreditated at all. St. Regis is setting these degree mills up for the biggest embarassment of their lives.

    These scum bags never stop their nonsense. I mean these people are real savages!
     
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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Liberia was never a U.S. Colony. St. Regis and JF S Marketing will be embarassed.

    The Philippinnes
    Guam
    American Samoa
    Puerto Rico
    Panama Canal Zone
    Texas
    Oregon
    California
    Hawaii
    U.S. Virgin Islands

    Invaded (but did not colonize):

    Haiti
    Dominican Republic
    Cuba
    Mexico (except the parts we took; see above)
    Guatemala
    Nicaragua
    Panama (except the Canal Zone, which we already controlled)

    De-stablized:

    Chile
    El Salvador


    U.S. hegemony, especially in Latin America, is well-established. And the Spanish-American War was all about building America's own colonial empire.
     
  12. Bob Gbar

    Bob Gbar New Member

    Perhaps you should go do your research on what a colonial empire is. What's the matter with you Rich? The point here is simple. Liberia was never a colony of the United States and it is ridiculous for a White South African/ Living in South Africa to assume that.
     
  13. galanga

    galanga New Member

  14. Bob Gbar

    Bob Gbar New Member

    The issue here is whether Liberia consisted of Americans who decided to migrate to Africa or as the charlatan from J. F. Smith Marketing claims, Liberia is an American Colony, not was but is, although she was never a colony of the United States. No one should assume the charlatan's position because of a website about part of Liberia's history and infact that website is not claiming Liberia as an American colony.

    I say Liberia was never an American colony but a land chosen by some Americans who without understanding their own destiny, decided to return to Africa when infact they did not do so well there after all. I have relatives who were part of this group but will never claim Liberia as an American colony period.

    One must clearly put in context what the objective of the American colonization society was, ( NOT THE U.S. Government) and why they chose to help and the name A.C.S. Most blacks willingly left America while others allegedly were forced out due to conditions created. Whatever the issue, we can all agree, the Republic of Liberia was never a U.S. Colony nor is she one now, period, end of story.
     
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  15. atraxler

    atraxler New Member

    Panama Canal Zone

    Rich,

    The Panama Canal Zone wasn't a colony. We (actually a French buddy of ours) signed a lease (with no expiration date) that paid a generous 1/365 of the revenues generated by the operation of the canal ;)

    The military bases were established to protect the canal from the Germans in WWII, from communism during the Cold War, and from ourselves in the 80's.

    If it wasn't for that lease, I would be Colombiano...
     
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: Panama Canal Zone

    Panama, a part of Columbia, was taken from Columbia by the U.S. in order to establish the Panama Canal and the Canal Zone. We then established a U.S. territory that cut a swath across the entire nation of Panama. And none of this was done with the authority of the owners, the Columbians. That sounds like establishing a colony to me, but who cares about labels. I think the point has been made.
     
  17. beachhoppr

    beachhoppr New Member

    I love that :D
     
  18. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    John F Smith is an American, though he lives in South Africa.
     
  19. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    "John F Smith, a widely known expert on Marketing and brand Marketing, was born in Detroit, Michigan, in 1965, and received a B. degree summa cum laude from Harvard College in 1986, an MBA in Marketing from UCLA in 1990, and a Ph.D. in Marketing from Stanford University in 1992. He was appointed to the Stanford Marketing Faculty in 1992, and left Stanford in 2002 to start the JFS School of Marketing.
    During his 10-year career with Stanford, Professor Smith made many research contributions in International Market Trends and Brand Marketing, including supervising some 20 PhD dissertations and publishing approximately 50 marketing articles. He wrote three texts on Brand Marketing including the widely used reference and textbook: Branding (University Books, 1996).

    He was elected to the U.S. National Academy of Marketing in 2001. He also received the R. W. Wood Prize and the Frederic Ives Medal of the Business Management Society of America for overall excellence in Brand Marketing in 2001 and 2002.
    Since 2002 Prof Smith have been running his own Marketing School with unbelievable success.

    He also overseas dissertations for Masters and PhD students.
    He is currently living in Cape Town (South Africa) with his wife (Annette) they have 3 children. He currently teaches Marketing at the University of Cape Town. He also runs his private Marketing School (JFS School of Marketing) with the help of entrepreneurs in South Africa."- JFS Marketing

    Did not take much searching to find this info...

    Sounds like you dislike "these white South Africans" MR Gbar?
     
  20. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Re: Re: Panama Canal Zone

    Panama sounds like a stunning place. I recently enjoyed a dinner in Hong Kong with a long lost school buddy of mine who is a lawyer in Panama. We went to school in Switzerland for 2 years and shared our formative years (15-17) growing up together. He tells me the currency is US Dollars, the economy is stable, and life is just sweet in that part of the world. We got discussing IBCs etc, and he voiced his concerns over my stories - only time will tell...

    Cheers,

    George
     

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