Preston University Campus

Guys, I've read the previous threads about Preston University. Is it a diploma mill (or are they any worse than CCU or CPU or SCUPS)? Their website claims they are licensed by Wyoming (OK we know, WY doesn't count in QC) but it also lists a campus.... (is this true?) and honest-to-goodness faculty.
Anything we on the other side of the continent should know....
One of the last posts say it's a fraud? if so, why?
TNX

 

I'm sure advocates for CCU, CPU, and/or SCUPS will be thrilled to see their schools used as a standard to determine whether or not another school is "any worse."

Credits and degrees from Preston University will not be acceptable in any situation where credits/degrees are required from accredited schools. Which is to say, almost all of them. (There are employers who don't know and don't care, but my research showed that when they do find out about unaccredited schools, their acceptance of those schools drops.)

I see a lot of references to on-campus activities, including degree programs, but I don't see a street address for the university listed on its website.

 

Re: Re: Preston University Campus

Actually it is there:
1204 Airport Parkway,
Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001

Five classrooms, library and offices.

The Embrodiary guild of America also uses ther Student lounge on the "2nd and 4th Thursday at 10am" (http://www.egausa.org/directory/regionrm.htm)

 

Re: Re: Re: Preston University Campus

Thanks, Mike. I got the distinct impression there really were activities there, but I just couldn't find the address.

Rather than attempt to label the school a degree mill or a sincere effort at running an unaccredited school, I preferred to make a statement about the utility of such degrees.

 

Nice trolling there.

They currently claim to have more than 50 "campuses" in 21 countries around the world.

Fraud is a legal term.

The question is whether or not it's an academically sound university, or chain of educational franchises, or whatever in the hell it's supposed to be. I see no reason to think that it's anything more than a business, but you have to make up your own mind whether it might be of some value to you. It certainly isn't accredited in the United States and it seems to receive no scholarly or professional recognition here.

There's the question whether or not its degrees have utility. That depends on who is being asked to recognize them, I guess.

My impression is that the Preston organization is run by Pakistanis and markets mostly in developing countries where people aren't very sophisticated about the American higher education system.

I notice that their Ajman, United Arab Emirates "campus" prominently claims that it is "an American accredited university". See (here). If a student relied on that claim, spent several thousand dollars, then discovered that the claim isn't true... yes, that might justify a charge of fraud.

See (this) thread for more information on the Preston empire.

 

This has been said by others before, but I think it is ridiculous for Wyoming to license a school that "operates" in all those other places through agents. Given that Wyoming makes little effort to scrutinize its unaccredited schools, it still makes me wonder how they can exercise even a modicum of oversight to Preston. This indicates how silly and meaningless a license from Wyoming is. (Hint, hint.)

 

Thanks. will share the info to others....
sorry for my "verbal indiscretions" ... didn't mean ill of anyone or any place.

 

The best thing to do to check with Department of Education of Cambodia and what recognition do they give to degrees awarded by Preston. If the Preston degrees are acceptable for government job in Cambodia then you can join the Preston degree program without hesitations. But make sure you can see a written acknowledgement of recognition by Cambodian education department.

Peter Chin

 

Re: Re: Preston University Campus

This is the exact loophole that degree mills use in Malaysia to feign legitimacy. The JPS (Public Service) regulations state that they will recognise *ANY* postgraduate award, so long as the candidates first degree comes from a *recognised* institution. By doing this, the mills claim accreditation/ recognition from the Malaysian Government.

Cheers,

George

 

Everyday there are some degree mill university advertise in Star paper especialy. Listed below are those universities advertise almost once or twice every week:

Preston University conducted by Unistate, PIE, Optimum Access Sdn Bhd, TL Management etc
Columbia Commonwealth University by Paramount Ins., many others agents
American City University by Paramount, and others
Southern Pacific University by Paramount, Unilocal Academic Resouirces, and so on.
Commonwealth Open University by Unilocal, Paramount and etc
Newport International University
Washington International University
Akamai University from Unilocal, Bized Resources Sdn Bhd and many more
Atlantic International University by JES Open Learning S/B
Senior University or Stradford University
American World University by Edu Search Consulting Sdn Bhd
Novus University by Edu Search Consulting Sdn Bhd
Edison University of Technology (BVI) from Unilocal
Columbia Southern University by Paramount, Unilocal and others
Bridgate Advance University
Phoenix International University (Panama and BVI) from PIE
Birchame International University

and many more. These is easily name and if you would like to know more

 

preston University

Hi folks,
I am not certain about the status of the campus in Wyoming, is it realy true that they have a physical campus? Did anybody see it for real?
I heard that Preston University was shut down in Pakistan. I am not aware of the reason why the school was shut down but I would like somebody to give me any further information on this case. Is it register as a local University or as an International University affiliating with a local University?
Anyone that can answer this, I would appreciate
Thanks

 

When was the last time you saw that list of degree mills?

Have you verified with CHEA and DETC if Columbia Southern University is degree mill?

You may see the Columbia Southern... website and tell us if it's a degree mill or not.

Regards,

 

Hi Mr. Lee, I live in Malaysia and read Star and New Straight Times daily but I do not see any advertisements for the all above mentioned universities except the following:

1) Washington International University.... advertise without any Malaysian partner.

2) Newport International University (NIU)... with a local Malaysian company subsidiary of Lion group (see my thread on NIU).

3) Preston University --- Malaysian partners TL management and Kolej Putra.

4) Columbia Commonwealth University and American City University by Malaysian partner Innovative Distance Learning and Unilocal and etc.

5) Commonwealth Open University by Malaysian partner Biz-Ed resources.

KINDLY IDENTIFY THE DATES AND NEWSPAPERS WHERE YOU HAD SEEN THE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR THE UNIVERSITIES THAT YOU HAVE LISTED ABOVE.

You have missed the following universities that are also operating on a large scale in Malaysia:

Cambridgeshire University: http://www.csuedu.org/partnership.htm

Malaysian partners NetAcademy, Putra College, Penang Institute of Business Administration, CEO Training Consultancy, Graduate Centre for Management Studies, SCROLL Management Sdn. Bhd, ITF Resources, Putra Academy

Irish International University:
http://www.ipfm.com/profile.htm

Malaysian founder Prof. H Sandhu operating from East Malaysia International Postgraduate Facilitator Management CENTRE (IPFM)

Berne University of St. Kitts from a company in Ipoh

Anstead University of BVI from Penang (See my post on Dr. Haw)

University of New Castle, USA & University of Honolulu

J.E.S Open Learning SDN BHD (Malaysia)

Honolulu University, Shermont Group


There might be more...

Peter Chin

 

Re: Re: Re: Preston University Campus

Hi, George this loophole was around 3 years ago but not anymore and it was from JPA or PSD (Public Services Department) and those days many diploma mill like Irish International University con the students by using that letter and they even publish it on their website.

But it has no more value and JPA do not issue any such letters anymore. A university has to be accredited or recommended by LAN (National Accreditation Board) before JPA can issue any letter.

Hope that clarifies the matter.

Peter Chin

 

Columbia Southern is fully legit andDETC accredited.

 

Re: preston University

Campus? I guess that depends on your definition of campus.

Sounds more like an office suite in a typical industrial park. Probably under 5000 square feet. I do know that the The Embrodiary guild of America also uses ther Student lounge on the "2nd and 4th Thursday at 10am" (http://www.egausa.org/directory/regionrm.htm and http://rocky_mtn_embroidery.tripod.com/cheyen.html)

 

Hi Peter Chee,

Of cause there are many more degree mill operating in Malaysia that what you had mention. Just like the Columbia Southern University that advertise in the Star news paper pass few months ago but their promoter was promoting some others substandard or degree mill university like Southern Paciofic University, Commonwealth Open University, Columbia Commonwealth University, and many others. I am not very sure how come an accredited university from DETC can be affiliated with the agent whereby operating degree mill university. Most of the accredited university from United States I am know about it if there is any misrepresent or misleading that will lead for a lot of problem and havoc! Like what I saw from pass few months ago there was an advertise for Columbia Southern University for BBA-MBA and DBA program. And what I know DETC accredited school only offer up to the level of Master. What else university there offer for the people who receive the brochure from their representative. Sure that there are a lot of suspecious!

Lee

 

Peter,

Just coincident that I found that Malaysia .edu.my can granted to substatndard university from BVI see this webiste:

www.piu.edu.my whereby the program organise by www.pie.edu.my

Phoenix International Universityhttp://www.phoenixinternationaluniversity.net/homepage.htm

What do you think of these Peter!

If there is the case I can imagine there should be a lot of degree mill are very interested which operating in Mlaysia are interested to register for .edu.my.

Lee

 

PIE College (formerly known as PIE Institute of Technology) was established in 1975 with the objective of providing skill development training in the field of consumer electronics; repair, troubleshooting and servicing leading to a Technician Diploma in Electrical and Electronic. Today, after 27 years of excellence in training and education, a new PIE has emerged. Under the new management, PIE has set up the Board of Academic Advisors comprising very experienced International Faculty.

PIE today stands for Partner in Education offering more than just electronics programs, where it has produced over 10,000 skilled workers and entrepreneurs. PIE has started offering programs in IT and Management in collaboration with Phoenix International University. Its Diploma in IT program (major in Computer Network Technology & Computer & Information System) has received approval from the Ministry of Education and the National Accreditation Board of Malaysia.

http://www.pie.edu.my/about/about.cfm

It was used to be perak Institute of electronics and there is no way a foreign University can get (.edu.my) domain as it is reserved only for approved Malaysian Institutions of higher leanring by deaprtment of education.

Peter Chin

 

First of all Columbia Southern University is an accredited University by DETC and certainly not in that league of diploma mill which you listed. I do have strong doubts the way they conduct their online courses and had post a thread which raised the temperature of few people and I was being threatened to be sued. Although I can defend my points and hiring an attorney in Malaysia is much affordable then in US but I think it is waste of my time and I can find better use for my time than to fight a legal suit by CSU or DETC.

CSU was represented by MINA INSTITUTE of Ipoh (Now promoting American University of Hawaii) and subsequently I saw a lot of other companies start to use CSU name and doing business for other universities. As you know the agents will sell anything that earn them the maximum commission so I guess diploma mill universities paying these agents much higher commission then CSU and that’s the reason they market other universities under the umbrella of CSU.

Peter Chin