Saint Regis professor activities???

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by galanga, Jun 1, 2004.

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  1. galanga

    galanga New Member

    What does a Saint Regis professor actually do?

    The usual role of faculty at a university includes the teaching of students, the creation (and transmission) of new knowledge through research, and a certain amount of "thinking outside the box" to engage with areas outside one's research discipline.

    The comparison of the roles and activities of faculty in RA schools (and the better SA schools) with those of professors at SRU is striking and also baffling. In fact, it is difficult to tell what it is that Saint Regis professors actually do on behalf of SRU. Perhaps someone else has some insight into this?

    From the Saint Regis faculty page:Faculty members are not employees, contractors, partners, owners or officers of any entity in control St, Regis University. The title of faculty does not carry with it any right or authority to make any statement on behalf of St. Regis University.

    This probably means that, for example, Professor Dr. Saly J. Leak, D.Sc., C.Tech., Professor Ray Pressnell, Professor Dr. Atul Uchil, and Professor Dennis R. Mijanovich (SRU's "Electronics Engineering" and "Electrical Engineering" faculty) are not paid by SRU to do whatever it is that they do. It also probably means that they are not allowed to say
    (This is a paraphrase of some of the ABET requirements.) If I understand it correctly, they are not allowed to issue an official description of what is expected of an SRU client who receives an Electrical Engineering degree.

    Out of curiosity, what sort of electrical/electronics engineering and math courses are available through SRU? Is there anything on the SRU site that provides some insight into the possible shape of an EE curriculum? After all, one of the "efficient path" available to the client involves "courses at approved colleges and universities." We find that SRU's coursework programs are provided by Internet Education Systems (IES). (The IES domain administrator is Rosemary Kolenich, PO Box 1144, Kamiah, ID 83536, 208-935-0233. She's also the domain administrator for Breyer State University, also of PO Box 1144.)

    An EE student needs to take a few semesters of calculus and differential equations to know his/her stuff. So what sort of math courses does IES offer? The IES catalog lists the following "fields of study": Accounting, Aviation Safety Management, Business Administration, Case Management, Clinical Hypnotherapy, Computer Science and Information Technology, Counseling, Criminal Justice, E-Business and Commerce, Education, Grief Counseling and Bereavement Thanatology, Health Care Administration, Management, Metaphysics and Spiritual Counseling, Nursing, Psychology.

    Let's see what the Computer Science and Information Technology "department" offers. Uh oh, not a single math course! No calculus, no differential equations, nothing about Laplace or Fourier transforms. There's nothing about electronic circuits, high frequency design, or high power applications either. Nothing. So there's now way for an SRU client to learn the stuff of electrical engineering.

    So what do the five SRU electronics/electrical engineering faculty actually do? They don't seem to teach courses since SRU doesn't offer courses. They are not on the Breyer State faculty. They don't seem to be the authors of the IES courses. They are not allowed, one assumes, to describe the Saint Regis EE curriculum. And they don't get paid by SRU. This is very curious: they are missing out on the pleasures of teaching and research that normally come with a faculty position.

    Might it be the case that a potential client who comes to the SRU site, tuition in hand, expressing an interest in a BSEE will be turned away if he/she asks to pursue the SRU Degrees By Distance route? Even with five SRU faculty in the EE areas? I wonder.

    John Dovelos, a former SRU professor, posted a comment about contact between students, advisors, and faculty at Saint Regis elsewhere:
    It seems that even the Saint Regis professors don't know why they are Saint Regis professors. So why, one might wonder, does Saint Regis bother to maintain a roster of "professors" at all?

    G
     
  2. SRU Professors Main Activity....

    The main activity for SRU professors (ex and current, or at least the current ones who know they are "professors") appears to be a lot of breast-beating coupled with moments of false congratulations and elation on their stupid little discussion board.

    My friend, who has access to the board, figured out that many of the newer professors (like Dovelos and Stefaniak) were actually customers of St. Regis, and made enough contact with the organization that they were asked to be "professors". Also, a woman there named Donna Bartman lost her job with an SRU degree, and they made her a professor to sort of compensate for that loss.

    As I've said before, the amount of energy these sad people expend on trying to justify, explain, defend, and rationalize their SRU "degree" could have been applied towards a real education, and they all would have had real degrees of some sort years ago....
     
  3. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Re: SRU Professors Main Activity....

    That sums it up, right there.
     
  4. galanga

    galanga New Member

    SRU faculty are accorded a small measure of academic freedom

    Now Saint Regis professors are allowed to speak about the courses they teach:
    Now that sounds like academic freedom! Vive la révolution!

    However, the SRU courses come from IES in Kamiah, Idaho, so the profs still don't have much to say.

    G
     

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