CPU DBA: I finally enrolled in it

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by richardmgreen, May 14, 2004.

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  1. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    To further my studies, I enrolled in California Pacific's DBA program. I feel the university's attitude and mine are a fit.
    I also like that fact that it's NOT on line.
    As a former computer programmer ( I worked for AT&T for 6 years) I've had enough of IT. I want to develop local businesses and help them compete.
    I have not participated in this board in some time. Sorry about that.
    My eventual goal is to move to CA after I complete the degree. I think moving to the West Coast would be good for me.
     
  2. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I hope this isn't connected somehow to earning a degree from an unaccredited California school. There is no reason to think that such a degree has any more utility in California than it does elsewhere in the U.S.
     
  4. Charles

    Charles New Member

    Richard,

    Is the Richard M. Green Institute of Business still in business?
     
  5. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    I needed help shooting my videos. I couldn't seem to get what I wrote on the blackboard to show up on the videos.
    Also, the laws in NJ are such that I'd need a doctorate to advertise it as a degree. What are the laws in CA?
    I'd still like to get this off the ground. Technical issues are the problem. I had a Magna Cum Laude Cum at Boston U. So I'm a competent scholar.
     
  6. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    Re: Re: CPU DBA: I finally enrolled in it

    I've wanted to move out west for a long time. It's been a goal of mine for years to get away from the cold climate in the Northeast.
     
  7. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    I'm well familiar with the unaccredited nature of CPU. Nevetheless Dr. Bear gives it good ratings and I corresponded with him over it awhile back.
    I go with my gut instincts and they tell me that this degree will aid my future goals which include expanding my own institute and consultant's practice.
    My undergrad was Empire State which is also alternative ed, but accredited. So I'm all for alternative approaches.
    The degree will definetely enrich my learning and I know it'll be what I make of it. That's the key to success.
    There are plenty of Harvard guys who don't cut it and plenty of people with associate degrees who do. So it's not all in the pedigree. But CPU is a good school.
    Don't weigh everything by price tag etc.. That's a poor indicator. I worked near Rutger's U for 7 years and plenty of those kids had trouble finding jobs.
     
  8. triggersoft

    triggersoft New Member

    How much is the (overall) DBA tuition at CPU (I couldn´t find any information on their website)?

    (...and why don they seem to offer their program only for US and Canada students?)

    Thx!
    T.
     
  9. -kevin-

    -kevin- Resident Redneck

    Richard,

    good luck on both the degree and your career.

    Regards,
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Not to argue with your "gut feel" but another danger of unaccredited institutions is that the degree can become even less useful. Unaccredited institutions are much more likely to be closed down for various reasons and when they are closed the student records are generally all lost. Another potential problem is that unaccredited degrees are illegal in multiple states and the number of states making it illegal seems to be growing.
     
  11. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Not to nitpick but...nah, I ain't gonna say it.
     
  12. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    With all the unaccredited degrees out there, the prisons must be filling up. Among 250 million Americans, let's count the convictions - that would be none, wouldn't it? Now you scared him.

    Unaccredited degrees should never be a first choice, but they serve many people well.
     
  13. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Jail time should be the least concern for people with unaccredited degrees.

    Not long ago, there was a person who secured a full-time teaching position at a large, respected RA university, on the basis of an unaccredited Ph.D. (the person's only other degree was a RA Bachelor's). When the nature of the person's Ph.D. was revealed to the university, the person lost their job, was ostracized by former co-workers, and had to move out-of-state to escape the scandal. I don't mention the person's name because I think that the person has suffered enough as is.
     
  14. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Richard Green:
    Also, the laws in NJ are such that I'd need a doctorate to advertise it as a degree.

    John Bear: I continue to think CPU is one of the better unaccredited schools. However, since New Jersey law parallels Oregon law, it seems use of their degree would be considered a criminal offense in NJ.
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    So the only reason you avoid illegal activity is because of the threat of jail time? Interesting
     
  16. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Or maybe the use of unaccredited degrees isn't illegal, possibly the laws are not legal or are otherwise unenforceable.
     
  17. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    I don't understand your question. Advertise what as a degree?

    If you are asking if it's OK to advertise your own CA-approved degree in California, the answer is generally yes. The exceptions might be some regulated professions. For information on that, consult the California Business and Professions Code.

    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

    If you are asking about the regulations governing the operation of a post-secondary school in California, consult the BPPVE.

    http://www.bppve.ca.gov/

    The BPPVE's not apt to approve a one-man degree-granting institution.
     
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  18. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    I'll check it out but I plan on moving out west. The additional training should help. I think the schooll is legit and it'll help me out.
     
  19. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    First of all, I'm doing this for my consultant's practice for additional
    education. Not to find a job with a company. Second of all, the school is LEGAL and state approved in CA.
     
  20. richardmgreen

    richardmgreen New Member

    When I get to CA I don't plan on being a one man operation. I plan on working with subject matter experts.
     

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