Curious About Evaluation Agencies

Do All of these "Foreign Degree Evaluation Agencies" own their own degree mills?

This one is owned by Matthew Clark, American Evaluation Institute

http://www.saintjohnuniversity.org/aei.htm

Buy a degree from this flaky site and get it evaluated as US RA with no questions (he owns both)


And then there is Dr Prade who owns AUAP and his own degree mill in France. His "school" also has an office in Florida.
http://www.sorbonedu.com/sorbonengl.html

Aren't these just a bit of a conflict of interest?

 

Saint John University? Interesting.... says its accredited.

I will have sent my CV for them to see how much credits i will get to earn a PhD, lol (my fake done up CV)


Migara

 

interesting about clark. He supposedly did evals for SRU at one point, though according to his wife he never did any.

And no, not all evaluation companies own diploma mills. Some of us own weiner dogs

 

this is interesting

I did a visual trace and got this....

Registrant:
Yahoo Inc.
(DOM-272993)
701 First Avenue Sunnyvale
CA
94089 US

Domain Name: yahoo.com

Registrar Name: Alldomains.com
Registrar Whois: whois.alldomains.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.alldomains.com

Administrative Contact:
Domain Administrator
(NIC-1382062)
Yahoo Inc.
701 First Avenue Sunnyvale
CA
94089 US
[email protected] +1.4083493300 Fax- +1.4083493301
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Domain Administrator
(NIC-1372925)
Yahoo Inc.
701 First Avenue Sunnyvale
CA
94089 US
[email protected] +1.4083493300 Fax- +1.4083493301

Created on..............: 1995-Jan-18.
Expires on..............: 2012-Jan-19.
Record last updated on..: 2004-Mar-04 15:41:24.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS4.YAHOO.COM 63.250.206.138
NS5.YAHOO.COM 216.109.116.17
NS1.YAHOO.COM 66.218.71.63
NS2.YAHOO.COM 66.163.169.170
NS3.YAHOO.COM 217.12.4.104



So I went and did a whois and got this

Domain ID98332562-LROR
Domain Name:SAINTJOHNUNIVERSITY.ORG
Created On:10-Jul-2003 10:44:25 UTC
Last Updated On:24-Nov-2003 05:14:03 UTC
Expiration Date:10-Jul-2004 10:44:25 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R52-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:10687419939000
Registrant Name:Bishop Clark
Registrant Street1:4401 Atlantic Ste 200
Registrant City:Long Beach
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:90807
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:10687419942240
Admin Name:Bishop Clark
Admin Street1:4401 Atlantic Ste 200
Admin City:Long Beach
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:90807
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.5624260507
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:10687419948440
Tech Name:YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Street1:701 First Ave.
Tech City:Sunnyvale
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:94089
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6198813096
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:YNS1.YAHOO.COM
Name Server:YNS2.YAHOO.COM


Apparently they are being hosted by Yahoo. I had no idea that Yahoo did hosting.

 

Fully Accredited by the Central Government of Cameroon

The concept of "GAAP" continues to unravel.

Saint John University (whose name is a cunning rip-off of the New York City university) has this to say on their 'accreditation' page:

St John University is fully recognized / accredited by The Central Government of Cameroon and certified for USDA Research.
All degrees from St John University are evaluated as equivalent to a US Regionally Accredited degree. This evaluation is accepted by the majority of Universities for further study and teaching positions, employers, INS, and the military. St John Graduates in business can be certified to sit for the CPA exam in 49 states in the US (all but California). St John graduates in education qualify for teaching licenses in the US.

http://www.saintjohnuniversity.org/accreditation.htm

Their homepage tells us:

We are the Accredited Seminary and University for the Byzantine Catholic Church Inc. NOT Roman Catholic

Ownership by the Holy Patriarchate of the Byzantine Catholic Church Inc.

Supervised by The Sacred Congregations Of Seminaries and Universities.

Deans Clark and Tang of the Seminary and University: Welcome You.

http://www.saintjohnuniversity.org/index.htm

The 'Degrees' page tells us:

Saint John University is authorized to issue Bachelors, Masters, and Doctorate Degrees on campus and via nonresidential, distant learning.

Degrees are offered in Liberal Arts, Business, Education, Divinity, Theology, Agriculture , African Studies and Languages, European Studies and Languages, Computer Science, Computer Engineering, Communications Engineering , Information Management, International Education, Technical, General Sciences, Parish Nursing, Sciences, Flight School and Aviation Sciences (ONLY Flight School in ALL of Africa), Commerce and Business, Liberal Arts.

The only flight school in all of Africa??? Yeah, I believe that.

They tell us that they offer on-campus programs. Unfortunately, I couldn't find an address for their physical campus anywhere on their website.

 

This is cool:

http://www.saintjohnuniversity.org/staff.htm

Our Professors Speak Many Languages including: English, French, Cameroonian, Hungarian, German, Russian, Farsi, Spanish, Italian, Aramaic. Students may study worldwide via distance learning in all languages. St John University is the first and only program to offer accredited degrees in all languages.

Doctoral degrees, in every subject, in every language?

Amazing!

Here's Ethnologue's list of language names, starting just with the letter 'C':

http://www.ethnologue.com/language_index.asp?letter=C

A stupid degree mill like UC Berkeley could *never* hope to pull that off. Bwa ha ha ha! Eat your hearts out.

It is odd, though, that I couldn't find the language named 'Cameroonian', despite this supposedly being a Cameroon university offering instruction in that language.

 

The proprietor, Clark, is an episcopus vagans, that is, a private individual who has become a bishop or archbishop of nothing in particular. Use the term "episcopus vagans" to do a search if you want more info on this general phenomenon. Clark's e-mail address bears this out: exarch=bishop in Byzantine parlance and Matyas=Matthew in Hungarian. Needless to say, this has precisely nothing to do with legitimate Byzantine Catholics under the jurisdiction of the pope. Also, the attempt to represent Hungarians as culturally Byzantine is wildly wrongheaded. Perhaps Mr Clark relies upon the tendency of many Americans to see central Europe as mysterious and exotic to enhance his glamor.
Nothing about this school or its personnel screams authenticity.
Beware!

 

(Until Mark Israel is back . . . )

The following site lists all of the 279 living languages of Cameroon.

None of them is called "Cameroonian" or anything close.

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=Cameroon

 

Re: Fully Accredited by the Central Government of Cameroon

Saint John University says:

Degrees are offered in... Flight School and Aviation Sciences (ONLY Flight School in ALL of Africa)...

I can't resist pointing out to them that Thunder City in Cape Town SA, a private group that is the owner of a legendary collection of restored former military jet fighters, has teamed up with (CA-approved!) National Test Pilot School to operate a test pilot academy in Cape Town.

http://www.thundercity.com/news.htm