Question about Oregon List

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by jimmyd, Mar 2, 2004.

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  1. jimmyd

    jimmyd New Member

    I'm a new member and have been following the discussions concerning the list of schools that Oregon does not recognize.

    http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

    I've noticed they list several state approved schools such as California Coast University, Century University and even Kennedy Western.

    My question is, is this constitutional?

    Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.

    The way I would read it is that if a college is state approved then it must be recognized in any other state, the same as a drivers license.

    What do you think?
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The law could conceivably be declared illegal but I believe for reasons other than you describe. For example, a similar law in Florida was declared unconstitutional because it stated that absolutely no unaccredited degrees could be claimed and the court ruled that this was too restrictive and would deprive people with unaccredited but fully equivalent degrees of their rights.

    The reason I don't believe that the grounds you site is likely is that it is well within the rights of states to not accept poor practices in other states.

    There are now about a half dozen states with similar laws and more states that are considering similar laws. In one state it is even a felony to print up a bogus diploma. I think it highly unlikely that all these laws (or any) will be declared unconstitutional.
     
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  3. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    Kennedy Western is NOT state approved, it is state licensed just like a beauty college or canine obidence school.
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Question about Oregon List

    Could one assume, based on the above statement, that K-W holds the same legitimacy as the average beauty college or canine obedience school?
     
  5. chris

    chris New Member

    Probably not..

    Beauty colleges often have health codes to meet. That would make their rules much more stringent than K-W's.
     
  6. Rob Coates

    Rob Coates New Member

    I think it's interesting that in the only state where a law forbiding the use of an unaccredited degree has been challanged in court (Florida) the law has been struck down. I can't help but speculate that the same thing would happen if the Oregon law would be similarly challenged. Doesn't the Florida case set a precedent? We need a lawyer on this forum.
     
  7. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    There are several ways that states are dealing with this question. In my home state (Michigan) the Civil service commission has issued a list of schools whose degrees are not accepted as suitable credentials for employment. This is less drastic than Oregon's approach - but still makes a point.

    Constitutional? Only the courts responding to legal actions will tell.

    Regards - Andy

     
  8. jerryclick

    jerryclick New Member

    Oregon doesn't accept other states' drivers licenses either. When I moved there from California, I had to get a Learners permit, and go through the whole test thing to get an Oregon Drivers license.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    That's because Oregon doesn't want a bunch of Californians moving north!
     
  10. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Oh, and we would too, if we could just get those tree-hugging mud-weasels to recognize our phony degrees!

    As it is, we just gotta be satisfied overrunning Vegas. In Nevada they don't care what kinda degree we got, so long as it's green.
     
  11. chris

    chris New Member

    I don't know...

    During the short time I lived in Colorado, the "native coloradian" (yes they had a bumper sticker) were screaming the California immigrants were taking over the state and ruining it for everybody. :D
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Re: I don't know...

    In Seattle, the complaint used to be that too many Southern Californians were moving in. Until the L.A. Times ran an article with data showing that more people from the Seattle area were moving to So. California than the reverse.
     

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