Re: Fairfax University degree accepted

Greetings,

I was reading the FAQ's on http://www.fairfaxu.edu/ffu/sub_faqs.asp and on the final question ask
Will my Fairfax University degree be accepted by other universities?
the Reply say"No individual university, accredited or otherwise, can categorically state that its awards will automatically be accepted by any other university. Much depends on the reasons/purposes for which you wish another institution to accept your Fairfax University degree. Over the past fifteen years Fairfax University graduates have had their degrees accepted and recognized by a variety of international academic institutions either for admission to other programs or for employment. Institutions accepting Fairfax degrees for admission to their own programs include: European Business School, University of Chicago Business School, St Mary's University, Texas, Monash University (Australia) and these British universities: Sheffield, Loughborough, Greenwich, Leicester, Aberdeen, Leeds and London.

what are you thoughts on this claim above universities have accpeted Fairfax Uni grads?

Thanks

Migara

 

Might be true. No reason to think it isn't. That this school can operate for almost two decades and get its students admitted to only a handful of schools demonstrates not its quality, but the opposite.

It has been noted repeatedly on this board that exceptions to policies are available in graduate school. Fairfax has shown a few. No big deal. It is not an indicator of wide acceptance of their degrees. The shortness of the list, actually, indicates otherwise.

 

Rich,

Why would a Accredited University would accept graduates from an unaccredited College? The Universities mentioned on the Fairfax University FAQ's are some of the best Universities in the present time.

Isnt it true that in US universities would dont accept gradutes from Unaccredited colleges? I think there was an article by Dr. Marina Bear (Dr. John Bear's daughter)?

Thanks

Migara

 

Not exactly. There are sometimes cases (very rare, I think) in which an accredited university will accept graduates from an unaccredited school. Sometimes it may be based on the individual student's background (there are exceptions to every rule.) I suspect that more often, it is a result of lax verification procedures.

In any case, I have never seen any evidence that any accredited school in the U.S. has a policy of accepting graduates of unaccredited schools.

 

Thanks Jeff.

Is Accreditation the evidence of schools' legitimacy?

 

Accreditation of U.S. schools by a body listed at http://www.chea.org for U.S.?

Yes.

 

"Policy of accepting" is the key concept here. During my 18 months with Greenwich fulltime, there were perhaps a dozen students whose degrees were accepted by regionally accredited universities, either for admission into another degree program, or for hiring purposes. Every one was a special case. Two quick examples; I could probably do all twelve with a bit of thought.

One was a student who wanted to go to Saybrook but couldn't afford it. Her goal was to work on certain aspects of dream research with Stanley Krippner, quite well known in this field. Krippner was also on the Greenwich adjunct faculty, and agreed to work with this student, who probably had more access to and personal attention from him than she would have as a Saybrook student. She was able to say, in effect, "I completed my Master's under the supervision of Stanley Krippner" (and, I think, another 'celebrity' Saybrook faculty, Alberto Villoldo), and on that basis, plus the quality of her research, she was accepted into the doctoral programs of several RA schools including, not surprisingly, Saybrook.

Another was a man who was well known as a world authority on certain aspects of the Roman Legions. He had published extensively on the subject. He had two full professors of history at major RA universities who said it would be a privilege to supervise his work, as he completed something like a 700-page study and analysis of the complete campaigns of one particular Legion over many years. The work + the degree got him a faculty appointment at an RA university.

These schools would never say they had a policy of accepting Greenwich (or any unaccredited) degree. But they were open-minded.

Indeed, when Columbia Pacific was brand new, in the late 1970s, I wrote to about 20 major universities to ask if they would consider a Columbia Pacific degree for hiring, or admission to a higher degree program. My recollection is that about half said maybe and half said no. Among those saying maybe were Harvard, Yale, and Princeton.

 

Re: Re: Re: Fairfax University degree accepted

Folks... many traditional schools have standing policies regarding the acceptance of students from unaccredited colleges. This is done on a provisional basis for a short period of time to assess student abilities. Credits can be transferred. I've included the verbage from Auburn Univ. and Troy State Univ. for reference:

Auburn Univ:
"...Students transferring from unaccredited institutions or programs may be granted provisional credit. When such credit is allowed, the final amount of credit will be determined upon completion by the student of one year of course work at Auburn University. If a C average is not achieved, the amount of credit will be reduced in proportion to the number of hours in which the student fails to earn a C average or better..."

Troy State Univ:

"Admission from Unaccredited Academic Institutions

Students transferring from unaccredited academic institutions who have earned an overall grade point average of 2.0 (4.0 scale) or better may be granted provisional admission. Transfer credit will not be accepted until the student has satisfactorily completed no less than 12 semester hours at Troy State University Dothan with a minimum 2.0 (4.0 scale) grade point average. When the minimum 12 semester hours have been successfully completed, credits from the previous school will be evaluated for acceptance and applicability to the student’s degree program. Students will adhere to the same retention guidelines as stated for unconditional students from accredited institutions. Students transferring only technical credit must meet the admission guidelines for beginning freshmen. Students transferring from an unaccredited academic institution with less than 2.0 (4.0 scale) average will be evaluated for eligibility for admission the same as other transfer students. The transfer of credit will be the same as above. "

 

I thought I answered this. Schools make all kinds of exceptions to their policies in order to admit desirable students.

I don't know of the article you're referring to, but Marina is John's wife, not his daughter. His daughter (and co-author), Mariah, does not have a doctorate.

 

The rain is Tess , the fire’s Joe, and they call the wind Mariah

 

Fairfax

I contacted fairfax for extra info, on Thursday:

I am waiting for a reply.

Dear Sir/Madam

After reviewing your website and the process that one has to go through, I must say that is innovative and perhaps even challenging.

I am curious to the fact that after searching several forums, I have discovered that some participants of the forums regard you as a "degree mill".

My question is, why Fairfax has not applied to obtain DETC or a RA accreditation and how legal would your degree be in Canada, Ontario.

My ambition is to obtain Masters at some point in the near future.

I like the information provided at your site, that some universities accept Fairfax students at their institutions. Would you please provide me with more detail on these institutions/universities "The complete names"? I have researched many of them and they are quite prestigious.

"I do not wish to be jailed for posting the degree from Fairfax on my resume", like some of other persons using degrees from other universities.


Zengo

 

Zengo wrote:

> "I do not wish to be jailed for posting the degree from
> Fairfax on my resume", like some of other persons using
> degrees from other universities.

Who has ever been jailed for using a real degree from a real school (however bad the school was)?

In the only cases I've heard about where people were jailed for claiming degrees, either the people didn't have the degrees (Dennis Roark), or the schools were (not just bad, but) fictitious (John Davy).

 

fairfax

I know that Fairfax is state approved and registered as non-profit. But if I claim that I have their degree in Oregon then I might be jailed. As far as I know it's illigal to use the degree in Oregon.

I am talking about Faifax University, not the Accreddited University of Fairfax.

Zengo

 

Re: fairfax

Zengo wrote:

> But if I claim that I have their degree in Oregon then I might
> be jailed. As far as I know it's illigal to use the degree in
> Oregon.

Illegal, yes. But not everything illegal results in a prison sentence. They also have the option of warning you or fining you. If you ignore the warning and don't pay the fine, I suppose you would go to jail; but you would be the first.

 

fairfax

Yes Mark!!

I agree with you. I guess I will be warned.
But my point is , whether I need to go through all the trouble and find out few years after that Fairfax Univ. will bring me trouble. I gues what I am interested in finding out is, if I can register in one of the "Listed Universities" on the Fairfax's site for Masters. If I can, it's great. Than no problem. I have quite extensive list of post-secondary courses from Ontario Colleges and University (Queen's), but do not have Bachelor's. I do not want to go all over again in being stuck in Bachelor, and want to speed up the process. I got in at Collorado Online but too expensive. So the fastest the better, and go on the Masters after.


Regards

Zengo

 

Zengo writes:

> I got in at Collorado Online but too expensive. So the fastest
> the better, and go on the Masters after.

Why do you think Fairfax would be faster or cheaper than, say, the Big 3 or British Columbia Open University?

 

fairfax

Mark, this is what I know, I might be wrong, since I have not taken any courses nor applied to Fairfax U. That's why I sent the e-mail to make sure.

What I know from previous posts and from the site is that, I might just need a thesis or some paper to do in order to obtain a bachelors degree. That is only after a review from the University, based on previous experience/credits from institutions.

Other institutions do not offer a thesis for your bachelor's, unless you took the courses from them or did transfer and you were given as a course to do the thesis/summary.

Regards

Zengo

 

Hi Zengo: Don't do this. An unaccredited BA will be an albatross around your neck, all the time, everywhere. I am not an RA-only or even NA-only advocate, but this is poor strategy. I do not know what degree completion programs are out there beyond the "big 3" or BCOU, as Mark suggested. Why not re-post a new thread called BA completion help, and/or check out Lawrie Miller's BA in 4 Weeks website (sorry, no link--use your browser search).
Best wishes, Janko

 

fairfax

I am looking into some of the less expensive schools.

I have no problem of doing 2 years worth of education. I am looking of geting at least two years for my previous education.

Strayer Unive. had a some kind of deal with one of the colleges I graduated from and they offered 81 quarter credits, but their tuition is high. I do not want to pay over US$10 000.00 to graduate. It will not help me at my curent job as a teacher.
This is for personal reasons, from my money.

Thanks

Regards


Zengo

 

Re: Fairfax Uni Degree Accepted

Zengo,

Let us know what kind of response you will from the Fairfax University.

I am still waiting to hear from the Louisiana Board of Regents. I will post their response here as well.

Migara