Are CA state approved degrees prohibited in any states besides OR?

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Rob Coates, Feb 14, 2004.

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  1. Rob Coates

    Rob Coates New Member

    I know use of degrees from CCU (and most other CA State Approved schools) is illegal in OR. Are there any other states where a degree from CCU is prohibited? Also, would anyone care to speculate about how CCU DETC accreditation (assuming they get it) would affect OR acceptance of Doctoral degrees issued after DETC accreditation to students currently in the pipeline?
     
  2. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    I believe that Florida used to forbid them as well. I think that they modified this law a few years ago.

    Tony
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Several states now prohibit the use of such degrees.

    There is no reason to think that DETC accreditation (if it happens) will change the acceptability of CCU's doctoral degrees in Oregon. Those will still have come from an unaccredited school that does not have ODA's approval.

    I would think you'd see some sort of notation on their list to reflect this.
     
  4. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    A couple of points...

    Rob, I believe Oregon is the most stringent. IIRC, other States like South Dakota and New Jersey are also restrictive, but focusing on State employment. Florida attempted a law similar to Oregon's that was challenged and defeated as unconstitutional. Oregon has not yet been constitutionally challenged.

    Rich, given that the ODA is a functionary of the Oregon Student Assistance Commission it serves for the purpose of student information and direction. If we consider the fact that CCU's doctorate programs are not currently offered to prospective students (and we speculate they won't be until DETC is granted the right to approve doctoral programs... also speculating, in the not too distant future), a listing as you've indicated would seem to serve no purpose other than being punitive.
     
  5. Rob Coates

    Rob Coates New Member

    As it stands now, on the Oregon ODO site it says..."In order to be legal for use in Oregon, a degree must be earned at one of the following:

    *An institution accredited by a U.S. accreditor recognized as such by the U.S. Department of Education..."

    Notice it refers to accreditation of the institution and not specifically to the degrees. As it's currently worded, if CCU gets DETC accreditation and someone graduates after this date with a doctoral degree, the degree would be legal for use in Oregon. Of course they can always change the wording on the site and yet I wonder how the actual statute is worded. If the statute only makes reference to institutions that are accredited Vs. unaccredited and
    doesn't get into nuances of certain degrees from an institution that are not accredited at the time the institution recieves accreditation etc. then I would think the ODA would be on very shakey legal ground trying to make such distinctions.
     
  6. Kirkland

    Kirkland Member

    Not to mention that they would need to add that caviat for every school that had granted degrees at any level before it was regionally or nationally accredited... it would be shortsighted indeed to focus on just CCU.
     
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  7. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    You don't suppose that the DETC would pull something like "all doctoral degrees must be conferred prior to the date of accreditation"?

    Tony
     

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