RE: Fairfax University

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Migara, Feb 11, 2004.

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  1. Migara

    Migara member

    I would like to know more about what you all think of the Fairfax University. Is it a Legitimate school?

    I get the feeling its far better School compared to many of other online/DL schools that are advertised on the web. It samelyeems the Fairfax Uni, has very big Faculty with degrees from most recognized Universities.

    Any Fairfax students/graduates would like to share some thought?
    what about "you" who seek Distance Learning, would you consider the Fairfax Uni to persue your academic goal?

    Love to hear a debate on this school, there are many on KU, and SRU, etc, etc. So let me know of Fairfax as well please.

    Thanks

    Migara
     
  2. MarkIsrael@aol.com

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  3. Howard

    Howard New Member

    Do we have a Fairfax shill among us????????????
     
  4. Migara

    Migara member

    I read lot about Fairfax University, and how Dr. J.Bear and Alan Jones, etc, started the University back in 1986. I also read what Dr. Bear wrote in 15th Edition about Fairfax, but the honest truth is why cant either Dr. Bear or some of those calibre come and say; yes fairfax is a credible higher education with good academic standards/integrity, etc or just say, dont even think of applying to fairfax, becuase, it lacks, such and such......

    Migara
     
  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Migara: "why cant either Dr. Bear or some of those calibre come and say; yes fairfax is a credible higher education with good academic standards/integrity, etc.

    John Bear: I felt that it had good academic standards in 1986. Although I departed permanently before the first students enrolled that year, I have never heard or seen evidence of any academic chicanery.

    Migara: "...or just say, dont even think of applying to fairfax, becuase, it lacks, such and such......"

    John Bear: Don't even think of applying to Fairfax, unless you are comfortable with a degree whose use would be a criminal offense in New Jersey, Oregon, Illinois, etc. That was then. This is now. [I haven't been able to figure out where Fairfax claims its degree-granting authority. I believe it is still run by Alan Jones from Birmingham, England -- but on what basis do they grant the non-religious degrees?]
     
  6. Migara

    Migara member

    I hear you Dr. Bear, you make few valuable points, especially the

    "what basis do they grant the non-religious degrees
    and where the degree granting authority come from"!

    Does Fairfax Uni, need to have the degree grating authority? i thought once a higher education institution is formed, that is itself is the granting authority? Am I wrong on this?

    Migara
     
  7. italiansupernova

    italiansupernova New Member

    Nope.

    If that were the case, right now I could start up "Italian American University" by going to the local UPS Store to secure a street address and call my box number a suite (as many do), say it's my campus address, and then I can say well, I have a "university" now, I hereby grant myself authority to grant degrees. On that note, I recall one school that stated "The University's by-laws provide authority to grant degrees. Translated: They've given themselves permission to grant degrees. NOT possible.

    For the United States: Each school, during it's inception, must first seek state approval. Afterwards they may apply for RECOGNIZED accreditation. That's an EXTREMELY short summarization of what it'd take to operate a legitimate school in the U.S.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yes, sorry. There are a few jurisdictions around the world that do not regulate private universities, but not many. In most of the world, the authority to grant degrees comes from the central government. In the U.S., the central (federal) government does not do this. It leaves this authority to the 50 states and territories. So real recognition of what is and is not a university comes from accrediting agencies--which the federal government recognizes.
     
  9. Migara

    Migara member

    So in the case of Fairfax University, the Degree grating authority comes from Louisiana, Montana and South Dakota?

    I thought, like in New Zealand/Australia, before one can form a Higher education institution, they have to apply to education depart of Ministry of Higher Education, etc, then go through a national frame to assess the quality of the programs, teaching faculty, research departments, etc, etc.

    Migara
     
  10. italiansupernova

    italiansupernova New Member

    The three states you mentioned have extremely lax educational standards. Although, Louisiana is reportedly cleaning up a bit. As for the other two, a lot of degree mills register as non-profit corporations in those states to "hide" from educational authorities & since it's really not enforced it SOLELY benefits the degree mill scam operators.
     
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  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Please do some research on this subject by searching the threads. Your statements (not questions) are utterly false. If you don't know something, ask a question. But please stop making these false statements. It just makes others respond, and it's all been covered before.
     
  12. Migara

    Migara member

    Rich,

    I was asking questions in case if you didnt see it. My understanding that Fairfax University is incorporated in 3 different states as I mentioned before.

    I was telling also the how in New Zealand/Australia, they require you to go thro the process of applying to education department, etc, etc.

    Anyway, I am not interested how the process work in NZ/Australia, I am interested in Knowing about Fairfax, legal university?, Credible?, Scam?, Run from a MailBox? where is the Degree granting authority come from?

    Migara.
     
  13. italiansupernova

    italiansupernova New Member

    To keep it simple: Stay far away from Fairfax.

    At the top of the screen click "search" then enter Fairfax University and you'll see many reasons why.
     
  14. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    If you never want to get a job (any job, even one that would not require the degree in question) and you also are sure that you never want to continue your studies, then... there are probably better options (even if you just want to buy a worthless degree.)

    Why have you focused on Fairfax?
     
  15. Migara

    Migara member

    Jeff,

    Why I am focused on Fairfax? Well, having seen, read, researched many online, DL school from US, I shorted listed few and I am in the process of eleminating few from the short list and what more better way to do this process that here through differential feedback.
    I dont live in US, I am in New Zealand.

    What are your thoughts on fairfax faculty? Why it is so important have RA or DETC? I understand that Yale, Orxford, Harvard are not RA.

    why is there a double standards?

    Thanks,

    Migara
     
  16. mineralhh

    mineralhh New Member

    well not quite...oxford is in britain, and therefore doesn't need any ra or detc as it is state accredited. harvard as well as any ivy league us school is ra, despite what others try to tell you.

    greets
     
  17. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Again with the mis-statements. This is incorrect. Harvard and Yale are RA. Oxford, as a UK school, is not. But it is recognized as a university all around the world.

    All of your questions about Fairfax can be answered by searching the threads.
     
  18. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    Although it is not RA, some graduates from Fairfax manage to get faculty positions at accredited institutions based on their Fairfax degree. This is the case of Oliver Schawabe that is teaching at Jones International with his M.Sc and DBA from Fairfax, I wonder if his students know the source of his degree.

    http://www.jonesinternational.edu/aboutJIU/faculty/profile.php?profile=34.1&pt=fcty
     
  19. Migara

    Migara member

    Well, I think his (Oliver Schawabe ) students should know where he got his PhD from.

    His credentials are on the Jones International Uni.

    RFValve, it seems you judging for his degree not for his abilities.
    How poor of your judgement.

    Does any one else know if there are other Fairfax Uni Grads working in RA institutions?
     
  20. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I agree, however, students are paying high tuition fees at Jones and deserve faculty with the minimum credentials to teach graduate courses.

    If an institution is RA, it must have faculty with RA graduate degrees.

    This also jeopardizes the accreditation of JUI. My best guess is that JUI is not aware that his graduates degrees are phony otherwise they wouldn't risk to display his profile so the accreditation comission can see it and take their accreditation for hiring faculty without the minimum credentials.
     

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