How to Tell if its a Degree Mill

A while back John Bear posted the question what do you feel indicates degree mill to you. I have looked for the post but can't find it. Can anyone point me in the direction of the post?

Thanks!

 

Are you thinking of the "Methods degree mills use to fool people" thread?
http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10692

 

Or simply…. if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is in fact a …

Ike

 

Yep thats the one I was looking for.......

thanks

 

Here is what CHEA says qualifies as a diploma mill, but I am not sure that the questions go far enough to satisfy what the majority think. It seems to me that if CHEA would be more specific, and come up with a STANDARD definition there would be much less controversy on this subject.

 

The new book has an entire chapter on that. It is hilarous and scary all at the same time.

 

Kristie refers (I think) to the impending* book called Degree Mills: the billion dollar industry that has sold more than a million fake degrees. She read a semi-final draft of the manuscript and made helpful comments. We do offer an annotated list of 92 things that are signs of a possible degree mill. A few are incontrovertible signs (such as backdating diplomas) but most are the kinds of things that, in accumulation, enable people to call a school a mill. But it is clearer to me now that it's not a black-or-white situation; that there is a continuum, and each person must decide for him/herself where to draw the line, with degree mills on one side, and bad or dreadful or non-wonderful or dubious or other legally-safer word on the other.

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* Not nearly imminent enough for me. The publisher has the manuscript, but it is on their fall list, which means September at the earliest.

John Bear, BA, MJ (Berkieley); PhD (Michigan State)
Co-author, Bears' Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning
Co-author, Degree Mills (Prometheus Books, fall 2004)
http://circledance.tripod.com

 

Kristie refers (I think) to the impending* book called Degree Mills: the billion dollar industry that has sold more than a million fake degrees. She read a semi-final draft of the manuscript and made helpful comments. We do offer an annotated list of 92 things that are signs of a possible degree mill. A few are incontrovertible signs (such as backdating diplomas) but most are the kinds of things that, in accumulation, enable people to call a school a mill. But it is clearer to me now that it's not a black-or-white situation; that there is a continuum, and each person must decide for him/herself where to draw the line, with degree mills on one side, and bad or dreadful or non-wonderful or dubious or other legally-safer word on the other.

_______________
* Not nearly imminent enough for me. The publisher has the manuscript, but it is on their fall list, which means September at the earliest.

John Bear, BA, MJ (Berkeley); PhD (Michigan State)
Co-author, Bears' Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning
Co-author, Degree Mills (Prometheus Books, fall 2004)
http://circledance.tripod.com

 

I would like to thank everyone for their help. I needed it for a SACRO conference in Dallas, some how I got talked into helping with a talk about accreditation, I am doing the dubius part.... Outside of public speaking at school for projects and several years as a college radio DJ this is one of my first speaking engagements ever.... Wonder if anyone will notice my hip flask?

 

Get a grip, boetie. If I can do it you can do it. Just recognize that nobody is paying any attention, and relax. (This works for me week after week.)