Saint Regis foreign language sites

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by galanga, Dec 28, 2003.

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  1. galanga

    galanga New Member

    The URL http://usr.edu.do/BKindex.htm is an entry page for a partially-developed pentalingual Saint Regis site. The page points to as-yet unfilled pages for French, German, and Italian sites. The English one works, of course (pointing to http://usr.edu.do/SRU/), and the Spanish one points to a sort of message/test page at http://usr.edu.do/SRUespanol/.

    Perhaps Saint Regis is preparing to move its online efforts south of the border in case US law enforcement agencies decide to take a look at them? The "usr" in the domain name probably refers to "Universidad Saint Regis."

    There are other related domains out there:

    1. http://www.ayudareal.org/ contains a link to "Universidad Saint Regis" at http://usr.edu.do/ on its post-Flash splash page.
    2. http://en.usr.edu.do/ is an English language SRU site.
    3. http://drcis.us/ is the "Dr. ABG CIS Technology for the future" site. On its Flash splash page is a link to "Online University" which points at http://en.usr.edu.do/.

    Dr. ABG is probably "Dr. Adino Bryson Guevara, Saint Regis University’s Vice Chancellor Latin America" since the SRU faculty page refers to his site http://drcis.us.

    Some of the pages load the 1-pixel graphic http://track.htlinux.net/tracking-usr.edu.do-formulario.gif in order to provide tracking information about visits to the sites, I assume. If you visit the site http://track.htlinux.net/ you're greated by a very cool graphic warning you to leave, with a link back to http://drcis.us.

    Here's some domain registration info:
    track.htlinux.net = 201.128.160.113 (same as the IP for usr.edu.do). This IP address seems to be in Mexico if I'm kinterpreting the WHOIS info correctly.

    HTLINUX.NET has IP 200.78.90.125 with this info:

    Registrant:
    Dr ABG
    17 Aspen Place
    P.O. Box 1307
    Waynesville, North Carolina 28785
    United States
    Registered through: GoDaddy.com
    Domain Name: HTLINUX.NET
    Created on: 08-May-02
    Expires on: 08-May-04

    Last Updated on: 28-Aug-03
    Administrative Contact:
    ABG, Dr [email protected]
    17 Aspen Place
    P.O. Box 1307
    Waynesville, North Carolina 28785
    United States
    (828) 926-5443 Fax --
    Technical Contact:
    ABG, Dr [email protected]
    17 Aspen Place
    P.O. Box 1307
    Waynesville, North Carolina 28785
    United States
    (828) 926-5443 Fax --

    and the registration info on the IP 200.78.90.125 includes mention of "SRU" (but not as Saint Regis University). Note the mexican address:

    Record Type: IP Address
    IP Location: Mexico <http://img.nameintel.com/flags/mx.gif>
    Mexico - Lacnic
    Reverse IP: No websites hosted using this IP address
    inetnum: 200.78.90/24
    status: reallocated
    owner: Reasignacion UniNet
    ownerid: MX-REUN-LACNIC
    responsible: David Chavez Alba
    address: Periferico Sur, 3190,
    address: 01900 - Mexico DF - DF
    country: MX
    phone: +52 55 54907000 [7049]
    owner-c: SRU
    tech-c: SRU
    created: 20031216
    changed: 20031216
    inetnum-up: 200.78.0/17
    inetnum-up: 200.78/16

    nic-hdl: SRU
    person: SEGURIDAD DE RED UNINET
    e-mail: [email protected]
    address: PERIFERICO SUR, 3190, ALVARO OBREG
    address: 01900 - MEXICO - DF
    country: MX
    phone: +52 55 52237234 []
    created: 20030701
    changed: 20030703

    The 4 web sites at the IP 200.78.90.125 that WHOIS shows (there can be more) are
    www.Ayudareal.org
    www.Drcis.us
    www.Htlinux.com (domain is for sale)
    www.Htlinux.net (domain is for sale)

    The second shows a link to the SRU site: http://en.usr.edu.do/ under the
    text "Dr.ABG's Technology News Feed Online University." (perhaps the "en"
    prefix means English??)

    en.usr.edu.do = 216.98.141.250 and this machine's ISP is in California.

    G
     
  2. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    Galanga, what is your unhealthy obsession with St Regis?

    Maybe they are expanding their business (afterall it is a business like all universities) and not fleeing jurisdictions (your opinion stated as near fact) Granted they might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, my opinion, but you don't strengthen your case by half truths and conjecture.

    Why the innuendos?

    I am just interested, because it appears that you have some major dislike of this institution and it certainly flavours your posts.

    :confused:
     
  3. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    I would like to suggest it's a healthy monitoring activity...keep up the good work galanga.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    When only facts are presented, it's called facts. The conclusions that may be drawn from these facts is left open.
     
  5. galanga

    galanga New Member

    to arms

    Hi Bozzy,

    1. What innuendos? "Perhaps... " is a model, explicitly described, that is a candidate accounting for the observed facts. Perhaps they're just expanding their business, but why bother to move to non-US servers rather than just building the new domains on the existing servers?

    2. "...after all it is a business like all universities..." Universities teach students as well as preserving and expanding human knowledge. They have financial concerns, of course, but they are not, principally, businesses.

    3. A cogent argument can be made that organizations like Saint Regis are mounting a vigorous assault on the integrity of the United States' system of higher education. They use the terrible conditions in parts of the world to their own advantage. This is unacceptable conduct, and warrants public exposure.

    4. Are we not obliged to share the watch over our community and raise the alarm when we see danger? Do you really think an "engineer" with a degree purchased from SRU should be accepted as a reliable author of, say, software running a car's antilock brake system?

    Of course, I could spend my time in more healthful pursuits like watching television.

    G
     
  6. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    Here we go again so now there is a theory that the US education system is at risk. What a joke. I grew up in a supposed third world country and know that some (not all) of those state run universities are a joke academically because of corruption et al.

    The joke is that they are supposedly better than SRU because they have a better "approval" system. Please Galanga do yourself a favour and go to Africa and see what the standard of education is like THEN have another go at SRU.

    Oh and by the way, Universities would go broke if they were not run like businesses.


    "Perhaps" you are a conspiracy theory artist or maybe the TV..uhh ...whatever.

    Have a great time outing these dangers to society.

    Bozzy.
     
  7. galanga

    galanga New Member

    We do what we can. And what are you doing about it besides sneering?

    G
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hi Bozzy,

    So your argument is that because standard education is so poor in Africa that we must accept a degradation of the whole educational system in the USA and Europe? Interesting, perhaps you should starve yourself to death because there are people starving in Africa as well?

    Cheers,
     
  9. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    Hello Bill,

    How is SRU degrading the US education system? As for the starving remark, I care not to comment because it shows a lack of comprehension.

    Once again the thread is going off topic . I asked Galanga a question about his obvious (go search his posts) interest in SRU and some pretty over the top statements.


    I think I will leave it at that.
     
  10. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Hi Bozzy,

    SRU is an affront to the educational system. The reason is that they sell diplomas. I'm sure that you're aware that according to one experiment, 75% of pigeons would be eligible for an SRU AA diploma. This encourages people to commit academic fraud with these meaningless diplomas. (meaningless in the academic sense) This can degrade people's faith in the general educational system and in particular undermine the respect for real distance learning degrees.

    How about some speculation? (Perhaps some people may want to first look up the words speculation, innuendo, and facts in the dictionary before reading this paragraph?) Why would SRU want to offer 75% of the pigeons an AA degree? Is it because they're an institution of education? I think not. It is because SRU is a fraudulent degree mill that does not instruct or really evaluate prior learning. SRU is a con job that is trying to take people's money. SRU is also encouraging people to commit academic fraud when they go and use these SRU phony diplomas. If the victim can pass the SRU AA test then they might pay SRU for the AA diploma. If the test is so easy that 75% of the literal pigeons could pass the test with random pecking then you would hope that 100% of the potential figurative pigeons would be able to pass the test.

    I'm pleased that you've given me this opportunity to try and assist your comprehension. Perhaps if you gave the starving analogy a little more thought it might make more sense? If you're still lost after giving it some more thought then please let me know and I'll be happy to explain it to you in detail.

    Have fun,
    Bill

    P.S. Why are you so concerned with people giving the facts and telling the truth about SRU? Did my speculation ruffle your feathers? :D
     
  11. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    Hello Bill,

    Thanks for the lesson in the pecking order of pigeons. If you think about things clearly then you will not make daft statements about starving kids.

    An argument can be made, right or wrong, that there are most likely many people that graduated at less than favourable universities and completed graduate studies at more reputable institutions.

    Does this mean that it cheapens the education system?

    One would think that the bad students would indeed fail horribly and in so doing the institutions will weed out the bad applicants.

    But then again I suppose I studied law at the Pigeon University campus of University of London.

    Have a nice day Bill.

    PS. Maybe you should read my posts again and notice that I was not endorsing SRU. I have no problem with telling the facts, but conspiracy theory statements are irresponsible and emotive at the very least.
     
  12. galanga

    galanga New Member

    your questions

    You would like straight answers to questions. Let's do this: ask them, but leave out inflammatory modifiers like "unhealthy." (Those'll just cloud the issues.) Post the questions as a list, please, separating them from other prose expressing your views about matters.

    So far, your questions to me are these:

    1. Galanga, what is your unhealthy obsession with St Regis?

    2. Why the innuendos?

    If you were to recast them this way:

    1. Galanga, why do you show so much interest in St Regis?

    2. Why do you speculate about what's behind SRU's actions?

    I would answer them like this:

    ---------------------------

    1. I believe the greatest achievements of our species comprise recognition of the importance of the rule of law; the awareness that a set of underlying physical principles governs the basic workings of our universe; the realization that free primary/secondary education and affordable post-secondary education are crucial to our society; that human rights are basic attributes of human beings and that it is to people, not governments, that those rights attach. And beneath it all is a clear recognition that the ancient and basic virtues of integrity, honesty, and decency are powerful guides to what is right and what is not, and are fully consistent with all that we know to be true.

    Saint Regis is an example of an organization which does not respect the things which keep us from turning into beasts and slaughtering each other for crusts of bread.

    Why SRU and not, say, corruption in a particular industry sector? It's a matter of what attracts my attention and what I find I know something about, I suppose.

    ---------------------------

    2. It's what a lot of us do. We look at data and try to guess at what's underneath. If the model fits all the data, it might have predictive power.

    G
     
  13. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    Re: your questions



    Galanga - Your obsession is only unhealthy for those people currently holding SRU degrees. For everyone else it's quite healthy. Thanks for your efforts.
    Just say no, non, nyet to SRU.
    Jack
     
  14. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    "Galanga wrote - "Saint Regis is an example of an organization which does not respect the things which keep us from turning into beasts and slaughtering each other for crusts of bread."

    Are you sure that you are not a Drama major?:rolleyes:
     
  15. galanga

    galanga New Member

    ah, a clearly posed question.

    Hi Bozzy,

    Are you sure that you are not a Drama major?

    Yes.

    G
     
  16. bozzy

    bozzy New Member

    Hello G,

    Well, at least you have a sense of humour.

    B.
     
  17. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    The .do suffix seems to be the country code for the Dominican Republic.

    Or perhaps this might herald a shift of emphasis away from Liberia.

    SRU has been emphasizing their Liberian 'accreditation' for some time, selling it to an English-speaking and American influenced audience while arguing that it indicates "RA-equivalence". They have also been trying to make their claims to really be Liberian more credible by showing some African faces and so on.

    But with the recent change in Liberia's government, with the questions regarding the Liberian embassy in Washington, and with the apparent cold shoulder from the IHU, perhaps a new marketing strategy focusing on Latin America and more broadly on non-English speaking foreign markets might be in the works.
     
  18. galanga

    galanga New Member

    Ho Ho Ho

    Professor Dr. Steve KHo; PhD, MBA, BSc(Econ), BA(Hons), AHKSA, ACMA, ACIS, ACS, Grad Dip (Acct) of Saint Regis University has opened a Hong kong branch, apparently: take a look at the site http://www.icledu.org/Home.html (it loads slowly due to the graphics).

    The "Degree programs" links include one to a Saint Regis site, which includes a Chinese version.

    The welcome message from Steve Ho can be found at http://www.icledu.org/WelcomeMessage.html.

    G
     
  19. John D

    John D member

    Galanga wrote:
    "Professor Dr. Steve KHo; PhD, MBA, BSc(Econ), BA(Hons), AHKSA, ACMA, ACIS, ACS, Grad Dip (Acct) of Saint Regis University has opened a Hong kong branch, apparently: take a look at the site http://www.icledu.org/Home.html (it loads slowly due to the graphics).

    The "Degree programs" links include one to a Saint Regis site, which includes a Chinese version.

    The welcome message from Steve Ho can be found at http://www.icledu.org/WelcomeMessage.html."

    Is it the case that you didn't notice or you selectively "forgot" to mention that ICL of Hong Kong also equally represent the University of South Africa and the University of Washington?

    John D
     
  20. John D

    John D member

    Galanga,

    Your continuing excessive missionary zeal against St. Regis is really impressive. Thinking, "researching", monitoring, talking and writing stories about St. Regis must require a considerable amount of your time and energy. I hope your other activities have not been suffering as a result, such as, for example, teaching and looking after your students properly.

    And, I'm just curious, why did you stop using your real name professor? Is it, perhaps, because your university has told you off again after they closed down the website run by you as a result of action by St Regis? Or, because there's legal action pending against you?

    It is really a mystery, what might lie behind this excessive, almost religious, zeal and dedication, which must also involve some degree of self-sacrifice. Can you imagine this collosal structure (the campaign against St Regis) built on faith, through self-sacrifice and enormous amounts of dedication and plain hard work, this structure you seem by now to identify with, a structure that seems to have become an integral part of your existence, suddenly collapsing in front of your eyes? What a devastating personal blow that would be!

    John D

    John S. Dovelos, PhD
     

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