accreditation vs. unaccredited at BJ

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by Way, Nov 14, 2003.

Loading...
  1. Way

    Way New Member

  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Since you asked for opinions, mine is that the article expresses a paranoia based fear.

    BTW, thanks for the link to the article.
     
  4. AlnEstn

    AlnEstn New Member

    Yes, I have to agree with Bill. The article expresses the usual BJU over the top reactionary response. I personally like BJU, but at times their responses are too much for me!
     
  5. cehi

    cehi New Member

    A very interesting article. I think the author was plainly justifying all the reasons why he would maintain a discredit of accreditation. My dilemma is that how can Oregon allow BJ graduates to use their degrees in the state and disallow other similar, unaccredited, but credible universities to use their degrees.

    For example, you can obtain a D.Min from BJU with a requirement of 30 credit hours (I hope I am wrong with the content that I read from their web site). This is only a 10 courses program. I believe these are not enough courses to graduate with a professional doctorate. Most of their faculty holds BJU doctorate degrees. Again, I am not in the clergy profession, so, what do I know.

    I guess the bottom line is that a fine line must be maintained between church and state.

    A very interesting article, indeed. Thank you.
     
  6. frkurt

    frkurt New Member

    Most D.Min degrees are 30 to 36 credit hours; this is because the basic professional degree, the M.Div, is typically a three-year, 90 credit hour degree (in general).

    Once upon a time lawyers and ministers got a second bachelor's degree -- lawyers changed their professional degree (also typically a three-year, 90-credit hour degree) to a doctorate (partly in response to medical professionals who also got a doctorate) -- why divinity/ministry students didn't follow suit, I don't know. But the bachelors became a masters (M.Div), with a top-up of sorts, the D.Min, being a year or two programme following.

    I offer this just on the point expressed, not making any assessment of BJU one way or the other. My seminary (CTS in Indianapolis) similarly has D.Min programmes of 30 and 36 credit hours; we are fully accredited by the ATS.
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The approximate number of hours for each route is as follows:

    BA, 130 hours
    MA, 36-48 hours
    PhD, 45-60 hours

    Total hours: 211-238


    BA, 130 hours
    MDiv, 88-96 hours
    DMin, 30-36 hours

    Total hours: 248-262

    These numbers are approximate, however, they contrast the two routes in terms of total academic hours.
     
  8. cehi

    cehi New Member

    FrKurt and Russell, Thank you for your comments. They both make a lot of sense.
     

Share This Page