Thank You Trinity College & University

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  1. Charles

    Charles New Member

    Andy,

    Why didn't you just go for the value pack? Since TC&U is so wonderful, you should have bought your masters and doctorate from them too.
     
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  2. Charles

    Charles New Member

    Oh, you wanted to be honest with yourself? Can you tell us exactly how you developed and documented the knowledge, skills and abilities which made you qualified for your purchased BA degree in Business Administration?
     
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  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Shallow Hall

    Andy,

    As one who has been on the receiving end of abuse, attacks and criticism (some justified) for some educational choices I have made, I hesitate to speak here. But, Andy, TCU meets the experts' criteria for classification as a degree mill. Andy, regardless of whatever experience a person has, a Bachelor's degree usually represents a well-rounded education. Buying a degree based on some experience in ANY field ONLY represents some skill and/or knowledge in THAT field; it does not represent a well-rounded education. A TCU degree will NOT benefit you or grant you any recognition or stature. A TCU degree will only position yourself as a target of ridicule. I am only posting this to you because I have been there with a couple choices I made. You just have to be very careful and extremely circumspect. If I express concern about one's educational choice then there must be something wrong with it! I am a strong defender of freedom of choice; I am a strong defender of one's constitutional right and privilege to pursue academics where one chooses; and, I don't think one's educational pursuits are really anyone's business, unless of course, fraud and deception are involved. I hold two degrees from a theological seminary that is unaccredited but state licensed. Many on here frown upon this school, others do not. But Andy, all but you frown on TCU. This MUST tell you something. I wish you the best.







     
  4. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member

    They obviously didn't check for spelling, grammar or sentence structure did they?

    Michael
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    At least FNHayes did a substantial amount of work that has been recognized as a valuable and significant contribution in his field.
     
  6. Chip

    Chip Administrator

    TC&U is a fraud, plain and simple. Anyone stupid enough to waste money buying a degree from them is lighting a fuse on a resume time-bomb that will, sooner or later, explode and destroy their career, credibility, and make life miserable.

    One needs only to search this forum to learn about various people with fake degrees whose lives have been substantially screwed up when their fake degree came to light.

    Andy is clearly a shill. Treat his comments as such.
     
  7. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member


    I am highly aware of that. My point being is that if he actaully had a degree, one would think that his English teachers would have taught him where to place verbs and how to spell words. I doubt that any teacher is easier on a student just because English is there second language.
     
  8. andyjs

    andyjs New Member

    Many people in this forum always perceive that degree from non-accredited institutions are worthless. I do not against that opinion, but sometimes it's wrong. Accreditation is REALLY has no guarantee of acceptance, which is normally subject to particular institutions. I have BA degree in Business Administration from Trinity C&U, and as a result, I've been offered some courses of Master's Degree, which are:

    University of Notre Dame (USA)
    Bond University (Australia)
    The University of New Zealand, Waikato (NZ)
    Nottingham Trent University (UK)

    All of them are quite famous Uni and of course, fully accredited. See? The main point here is not to degrade those legitimate institutions, but demonstrate your skills and competence will enable you pull up the "quality" of your degree. You make your degree better.

    Now I'm still 20 years old and I can go for my Master's degree. My previous qualification was Advanced Diploma, which has been "upgraded" by Trinity. As long as you can justify that you're qualify, nothing problem at all. But for those who use that as a fraudulent, I REALLY DISAGREE

    Actually, those non-accredited schools just want to help certain people to excel in their academic qualification, but unfortunately, many "traditional" school and mind set of educators have demoralized them. Not all people can afford to go back to school to study again. Especially those who already in Managerial and Upper position, they merely want to have validation of their abilities.

    LEARNING ITSELF IS A CONTINUOUS PROCESS. FROM THE BEGINNING AND IT'S ENDLESS.

    Peace,
    Andy Joseph
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Sir,

    Contrary to its name, TCU, is neither a college or university. It is a business selling worthless pieces of paper. I call them worthless because a diploma that you printed yourself would have similar utility. I disbelieve your assertions that you got accepted into the programs you claimed based on a TCU diploma. I also have a difficult time believing that you're not just trolling.
     
  10. andyjs

    andyjs New Member

    Shallow Hall

    I just do not understand why these old men taking rubbish about degree mills and how worthless they are. If you look back at yourself, which is more important to you? Your educational qualification doesn't mean that you have experiece and knowledge as someone who doesn't have the qualification or attend college.

    Don't you all people feel ashamed? I am only 20 year old boy but I can say in this way. Education is business also. If not, why many accredited and legitimate universities charge expensive fees for their education. Simple. For making profit.

    So called the unaccredited universities are making profit too. Win-win solution, people need degree, they need money. Maybe their qualification is not widely accepted but, as we know, discrimination laways practiced in every part of the world. Not only about education, but race, handicap, gender, and so on.

    I do not buy Master or even Doctorate degree because I just wanna be honest to myself. I think I qualify for bachelors degree but not for Master or doctorate. That's why I want to pursue my master through TRADITIONAL DEGREE in Nottingham trent university (UK) by next year.

    My point here is so simple. ITe quality of degree (even though it's obtained from degree mills) are determined by yourself. Whether you want to use it for legal, good or otherwise, bad.

    f you have your degree from true legitimate university, you should undertstand my point since before. Believe it or not, even some educators are silly.

    Regards
     
  11. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    Jimmy Clifton wrote:

    > But, Andy, TCU meets the experts' criteria for classification
    > as a degree mill.


    But Jimmy, Andy already knows that TC&U is a mill. He wrote, "I do not buy Master or even Doctorate degree because I just wanna be honest to myself." He realizes that he could have bought a phony advanced degree just as easily.

    > But Andy, all but you frown on TCU.

    Well, FNHayes only half-frowns on it. He admits he was "conned", but...

    I think it's worth re-reading the thread "other Ph.D.s from Trinity College & University". There are actually 2 outfits going by that name, one in South Dakota/the British Virgin Islands, the other in Spain.

    Bill Huffman wrote:

    > I disbelieve your assertions that you got accepted into the
    > programs you claimed based on a TCU diploma.


    As do I.
     
  12. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    MRinger wrote:

    > They obviously didn't check for spelling, grammar or
    > sentence structure did they?


    Universities accept foreign applicants whose English is not perfect. I don't know which "Georgetown" Andy is in, but I'm guessing Georgetown, Guyana (where English, English Creole, and Hindi are spoken).
     
  13. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

    There are indeed two Georgetown's in New Zealand. One is a suburb of Invercargill and the other a small town south of Timaru.
    I'm not familiar with either place; mainly because brown teal are exinct in both places - although they were present on Stewart Island, which is just off the Invercargill coast, until 1972.
    And in spite of having my last post eliminated, and Chip referring to me as stupid, I'm still smiling as it's another great day in 'paradise'.
    Dr Anatidae
    :)
     
  14. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    I got the following by Private Message:
    The Web does have a few mentions of "Georgetown, Invercargill" in New Zealand.
     
  15. Bill Grover

    Bill Grover New Member

    Sorry, I teach.
     
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  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I had someone post a PM from me. I wonder if this is appropriate. The word private surely must denote a degree of trust and confidentiality, no?
     
  17. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

     
  18. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    I normally do not post e-mail without permission. I do not extend this to flames, however; and the subject line "don't pretend so smart", coupled with the 3 exclamation marks after "You are wrong", did suggest a flame to me.

    Moreover, DegreeInfo's owner, Chip White, has labelled this person "clearly a shill", which suggests that he holds him in violation of the Terms of Service.
     
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  19. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    The rudeness, the illiteracy, the playing "gotcha" over "Georgetown", the sheer millishness, the keen observation by Chip, the NZ provenance, the TC&U connection--boys, we're in trouble! This calls for an expert...paging Dr Hayes, paging Dr Hayes.

    We need your expert opinion on this lovely poster, o anatide magus! Is he a-shilling, or just a bad penny? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...is it a duck, or just a quack?
     
  20. MichaelR

    MichaelR Member


    This is where I become a smart ass and should say something stupid, but.... for the life of me I can't think of anything. Outside of ooops..... Even though 90% of my clients don't speak English as a first language, I still have issues with folks that write in broken Eglish. Admittedly I need to work on getting over that fault, and learn to spell better. There, their, where and were really through me off sometimes.
     

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